
This guy is several times worse than Kats.
>>1
Katz is a brat, but I really love Amuro, and he comes to help when Camille is in trouble, so he’s kind of cute.
Beecha betrays Judau and uses Rou as a shield.
>>102
Releasing Sara is something that can’t be justified at all…
>>103
I’m not denying that it’s bad and that I frequently disobey orders.
It’s a question of whether I can at least see you as an ally.
What I hate the most is that this guy is ultimately breathing the best air in the Gundam team.
The fact that Elle is attracted to such a useless man is part of her charm.
>>3
It can be said that I’m almost completely focused on Judou until the very end… although, importantly, Judou has no intention of that at all.
What kind of light!? It was stolen by Morakan.
It’s a typical case of someone trying to rationalize their thoughtless and selfish behavior, but failing, making their actions seem abrupt and inconsistent, like a nameless character.
When I think about it, this guy is still 15…
I really hate it when flags are raised with El.
>>6
There is no shortage of hate factors, but ultimately it boils down to this.
It’s fine, even with this, I still have combat power.
They’re a troublemaker, but they don’t have a strong sense of camaraderie and were actually planning to abandon Judō and the others, which is really the worst.
A guy like Kai, whose personality is rotten.
The pilot’s skills are so few that it’s quicker to count them from the bottom, and from the middle stage onward, I was tied to the chair as a captain who couldn’t do anything.
From the first episode, he’s a greedy jerk…
Someone who continues actions that further decrease their likability instead of growing at milestones.
At least if there was something that made it seem like he viewed Judo as a rival, I could still understand it, but it doesn’t really seem like that at all with this guy.
I thought that once they were given mobile suits as part of the Gundam team, they would become more respectable, but then they start using the shield in a bad way, which is really impressive in a negative sense.
Is it just me, or did Mr. Bright go crazy when appointing Captain Beecher…?
>>15
Mr. Bright from ZZ has always been crazy.
I understand that Amuro and Camille have been burned out too much…
>>15
They are even having an affair locally.
In the era of Reiwa, it would be a serious matter.
>>15
It’s no longer our time.
This is more of a type often seen in comedy-oriented delinquent manga, and I don’t have any further thoughts on it.
The Shangri-La Children are basically crap.
Despite that, they are expected too much as a Newtype team.
As for whether it was a nuisance character as a gimmick in the story, not really, so I genuinely don’t understand its purpose…
>>19
For example, there is a behind-the-scenes story that Katsu was supposed to become a senior character in the sequel as part of the growth arc, but instead, the character was completely revamped and processed without any growth.
Then does this guy lose some role because he’s going to perform a reverse Char?
As a Kai frame, it was rather because my partner was closer.
What the hell is this guy?
Mondo seems to have a somewhat better impression with character development during the Tiger Baum episode.
Only Eno is too normal.
>>22
It seems like they’ve been doing not just piloting but also maintenance and various tasks all this time…
But the voice is nice…
I think Mr. Bright will understand if I sincerely engage with him throughout.
No one understood me.
It feels like someone like Monsia.
>>25
Not as strong as Monshia as a pilot…
Monshia has a proper attitude towards family, and as a soldier, he would likely protect civilians.
Beecha has almost no decent parts.
Right after saying something that made me worry about Judeau, the actions are totally messed up, like trying to blow up the ZZ just to kill Judeau.
I also dislike that Beacha’s punishment after accumulating hate is generally too lenient.
It’s at a level where it’s not strange to be executed by firing squad for betraying the enemy.
>>32
It feels like the vibe of a Yankee manga where the friends have a fight and then reconcile has been brought to the battlefield.
Well, you could say that it’s a character that got the short end of the stick in terms of story development.
Is it the period of Tomino’s decline?
I don’t really understand how involved Tomino was with ZZ in the first place.
It hardly comes up in interviews, and ZZ mentioned it was a work by the scriptwriter.
>>34
Even though I am the overall director, and I have participated in almost all the storyboards, I don’t think it really matters how much input I have, but I probably haven’t interfered much with the individual characters.
I feel like there were way too many times when someone took the parts and I couldn’t combine them!
Eeno was really impressive, wasn’t he?
>>37
They’re a sensible person who can handle anything and is as tough as a civilian…
Mond felt more helpful.
Good at cross-dressing.
Beech is regularly jealous of Judo and sulks, which is really annoying…
It seems that Beacha appeared in some manga later on, and it’s irritating that El has grown up nicely and seems to be doing well.
Isn’t there anything good about this guy?
There’s no redemption event like in Mondo, right?
Hahaha, isn’t it likely that you would still pull it off with Giorno? You’re not actually thinking of jumping over there to steal it, right? I can’t believe what you’re saying while putting yourself on a pedestal.
Is this it?
Or is it the one where Kai rides the wreckage of the Gun Cannon that Beacher repaired, which was featured in a magazine long ago?
>>47
Finally, while I was on the bridge, I was asked, “Aren’t you going to sortie?”
It was cool to say something like only those who can change history can ride the Z Gundam while watching it.
Did it get a little better…? I remember there were many shitty actions after that.
I backed off after I dropped the tool and bothered Ru.
That will definitely kill you.
Luu is really too strong-willed for my sake.
>>50
But I think if Rue had a refined and demure personality, she would have been crushed early on.
I am Acting Captain Neeru Arugama, so be careful with your words.
El worked hard, but getting involved with this guy is just too much of a disadvantage.
If Eno wasn’t there, that ship wouldn’t be able to move, right?
Even though common sense people are about as sensible as Eno and Rina, Rina’s departure is quite sudden.
It’s only being forgiven because nobody died as a result of the mistake.
If someone died, I might have finally had a change of heart.
Upon further consideration, there’s really no obligation to join the Eugene and fight against Axis.
I didn’t dislike it when I saw it as a child or when I looked back at it as an adult.
It might be quite surprising, but perhaps that’s because I’ve basically been seeing it as Shangri-La Children all along.
I grew up in the lower class of Shangri-La, so it’s about right, don’t you think?
I think it’s true that Judo and Eno are just too good.
The part where you use a shield is crazy.
>>62
It’s continuing from the part where Rue throws Rina’s keepsake into the flames…
Mr. Bright, who was desperate for a Judas scout, is a bit scary.
It’s frustrating that the depiction of those Shangri-La children is so half-hearted.
For some reason, adults are buying Beacha at an unusually high price.
>>65
It’s densely written in the first half… skipping school and running a junk shop.
Well, since they’re not regular troops, it’s understandable that minor violations of military flags are overlooked.
When you go from the game to the anime, Judau is seriously handsome, and the thread image is trash.
After switching sides, I was turned into a modified human and shot down by El.
It seems like it’s going to be made into material for everyone’s growth.
It was not done.
She became a captain and also got a girlfriend.
This guy’s character is also something else.
The face is also kind of annoying; it’s not good…
The Argama betrayed → Bright forcibly got on using a typical scam method.
Using Lou as a shield → Jude, who lost Rina, had a strong resentment toward Lou, who was harsh on him, telling him that as a soldier he should fight.
I think there are many people around here who don’t understand this.
>>71
No, I was totally taken aback even after understanding.
>>72
The fact that you’re reacting even though I’m speaking in general suggests that you might actually have some awareness of it.
>>71
In other words, it means that the scene where a bomb was wrapped around Judau’s ZZ and launched cannot be defended at all…
>>74
You can’t defend it to the extent that Camille shot a living person with a Vulcan.
>>74
In the first place, that is also accepted by Judo.
It’s strange that Bright is desperately trying to recruit the kids from the general public just because all the pilots except for Fa have been wiped out.
It’s wrong to expect such a nice reaction from Bicha.
Judo also causes outrageous things to happen when his sister gets involved…
A world that involves children like this in war is the worst.
Seeing Judau feeling something with Camille, there are certainly parts that can’t be helped.
Despite Neo Zeon’s existence, the Argama has no combat strength at all.
They probably thought that since they couldn’t succeed at anything else, becoming the captain might open up their talents…
The entire work shifted to a serious direction midway, so the characters from the comedy era are becoming a problem as they can’t completely let go of their past behavior.
>>82
In that regard, Mashmur is impressive.
It has been strengthened and is no longer just a gag character.
During this time, Bright is really in a bad situation, attempting infidelity.
The man Mashumer who could become Char depending on his performance.
Midway exit
Well, even if the atmosphere becomes serious, I wonder if those guys who are inherently Shangri-La will actually align with it.
>>87
If anything, Judeau could also cross-dress.
Even Hamaan fights in the Zeon swimming club in the second half.
Because I saw this guy as a little brat from the beginning, there were times when I thought, “He actually did it!” but I never really disliked him…
I hate Lacan even more than that… I haven’t watched the entire series, but he might be my least favorite among all the Gundam characters.
It is true that there was talent.
It’s a bit much to send kids who haven’t even graduated from middle school to the front lines…
>>90
Well, it’s like student mobilization, so it might be something quite common in that world.
>>90
People talk a lot about Char regarding Quess, but honestly, I think he’s the one doing much worse things.
>>127
Well, if you think about it, Amuro and Bright aren’t really paying attention to Camille as much as Char does, and Bright isn’t involved with him at all.
Lacan isn’t really a foe that leaves such an impression, right…?
>>91
Huh?
First, the easily memorable name, “Lacan Dakaran,” is bad.
Personally, I think Gotton will win due to the same vector of unpleasantness.
>>94
I won’t just end up as an ordinary middle-aged man without fortunate bosses.
After all, enhanced humans are a bad technology…
If you were watching ZZ, then you must have really poor memory if you don’t remember LaGan.
Either skipping over the Dublin chapter or something.
Personally, there are quite a few named enemies that leave a strong impression.
I couldn’t immediately remember the name for “bald.”
Infidelity is an attempt! It’s an attempt!
Mr. Bright’s terrible defamation.
It’s not like it’s a big deal or anything.
It’s a bit reckless, but…
>>105
Took Sarah out of her cell without permission.
“I really don’t want to fight alongside Zeon, so I refused to deploy even with the G Defender.”
Just when you think so, it suddenly launches an attack.
It’s pretty bad.
This guy, El, and Ru have been riding MS since the Z era, so they still have roles in games, but Mondo and Eno…
I wasn’t really close to Judou from the beginning, anyway.
I think it’s something like Donifan from “Fifteen Boys’ Drift.”
I wonder if the kids nowadays can’t accept someone in this position at all.
>>109
I’m not one of the kids today, but I’ve disliked Beatcha ever since I watched ZZ, so I hope you can forgive me.
>>110
I’m asking about today’s kids, but I’m being told the opinions of people who are not today’s kids…
>>109
Donifan really showed a clear change of heart in the final stage, didn’t he?
Isn’t it at a level where we might have swapped places when I was on the verge of death?
>>137
I don’t care much, but the fact that I suspect my insides were switched when I was dying.
Isn’t it an easy-to-understand change of heart?
The thread picture of selling Gundams is nothing compared to the likes of Garrod from Gundam.
>>112
Were there Gundams for sale?
>>114
I went to Endra to sell Z and Argama.
>>118
It’s not for sale.
Garrod sold it.
>>119
Isn’t this kind of act called “selling out your friends”?
I’m not denying anything about my companions, but…
>>114
It’s as if you say that people from the past could have compassionately accepted and forgiven Beacha’s behavior…
>>113
I don’t know.
I don’t want you to interrupt me with your selfish delusions.
Wasn’t it Rakan who dropped the Quinn’s man?
It’s because El was such a good woman.
Beecha’s personality aside,
The old-fashioned Type 100 can still fight well, and it’s quite excellent.
I vaguely remember that they were trying to hand over the ZZ to Neo Zeon, right?
>>123
Trying to sell it → ends up being canceled for various reasons.
I thought it was too much of a tempura rice bowl.
>>123
In short, it’s an attempted act.
When compared to the actual Garrod that was sold, saying “it’s not even comparable” is strange.
Seriously, this guy… and then ultimately the acting captain of the Argama.
The rise to success has a vibe similar to Gabure-kun.
>>128
If there was a character paired with Judou who was on the Endra side, aiming to bring down the Argama to earn some credit, it might have fit well with his personality.
However, the factors for receiving hate are present in the episodes on the ally’s side, so it may have become a non-issue.
>>130
I wonder if that frame would be good for Mashmur…
>>134
Oh right, there was someone who was exactly that…
Certainly, that strategy works against Gremmy, but… it’s a desert battle.
Gavreel has a natural charm.
What I’m doing is relatively that, but there are places where it’s often forgiven.
In the second half, I’m relatively worried about Judou, you know.
The fact that I got angry at Lou is influenced by those factors.
>>133
Ruu’s words were harsh, but she was trying to help me recover, so I can’t use them as an excuse to hide behind.
>>139
What resonates can depend on the individuals involved.
Ruu has a problem with burning Rina’s shoes without permission.
Traveling together really gives a strong sense of camaraderie, like being in the same boat despite differences.
I think the people of the Argama who were using bait to exploit others are also at fault.
It’s hard to say he’s a good guy, but by the end, he’s not so evil that it stands out either, so he’s kind of in between.
>>140
Thinking that the character was a nuisance in the first half and then slid into the good guy role in the later part without any redemption event makes it resemble the prototype of Po.
I feel that Beacha and Mondo’s meanness is clearly worse and poorer than that of Judoh and Eno.
>>141
Eno seems to have been raised better than the others just by the way he eats.
This guy and Mondo are characters from the combat mech Zabungle.
>>145
I used to think that back then, due to the three-day rule, it was a culture where switching sides and returning was easier, but I sometimes see it in other works as well.
I think the ZZ ally character is a bit different.
I think Eno is unusually polite compared to the other kids in Shangri-La, making him stand out instead.
>>147
If anything, even the adults in the story are among the top class of well-developed humans, right?
Judau isn’t the type to become a soldier like Amuro.
Regarding the matter of using the Rue as a shield, it may be excessive, but it’s also true that it seems justifiable for Beachmond to be angry, so it feels wrong to say that Beach is entirely at fault.
If it’s about whether it’s bad or not, then it’s just bad.
Even as the villain, it would have been nice to have growth events like Kai-san.
The incident with Rue made me feel more favorable towards Judou because I was angry about his attitude.
I didn’t think I had any feelings for my friend when I was about to sell the Argama.
>>152
I’m really worried that Judou might have gone crazy from hearing Rina’s voice.
Everyone around was choosing to talk to Jude.
It’s amazing that Mondo has a growth event, but this one doesn’t.
>>154
It seems like it will end up being overshadowed without a growth event…
>>154
It’s already completed in a way.
I thought Eno was just dating his friend Jude and didn’t really need to run a junk shop; he seemed to be a well-to-do young gentleman.
I’m skipping school regularly and also going to space.
In the first place, Judo is just too serious, and these guys are in a position where they can say they don’t care about a war that adults started on their own.
Bright’s verbal promises are almost immediately pulled back and disregarded.
Bright, who tried to get through to Mr. Wong by saying, “Today’s youth are full of passion,” is the one overflowing with passion, despite the kid who betrayed us twice by colluding with the enemy ship.
>>161
If you knew Kamiyu from the early days, it feels like a line that would make sense.
>>161
I’ve been desensitized because I’ve been dealing with bad luck stories like Seira-san’s since I was 19.
>>161
Because it’s way better than coming back from a crappy bitch who seriously betrayed me and stalked me until death.
To be blunt, if someone says they have no obligation to go that far for this war, all I can say is “Yeah.” I don’t think prioritizing oneself is particularly evil.
>>162
It’s more evil for Bright to use food to instigate a war.
>>165
That alone was a limit for Bright’s side as well.
If things stay the same, Bright won’t be able to survive.
At first glance, Eno may seem timid, but like the Shangri-La Children, they have a fair amount of guts… they handle combat fairly well too…
When Bright-san’s romance suddenly started, I thought, “What is this!?”
If it weren’t for this guy, I would have watched ZZ until the end.
Beecha is probably a representative of an ordinary person in that Universal Century.
Whoever controls the Earth Federation, AEUG, or Axis, we’ll choose the side that benefits us.
>>170
Even while spouting hateful remarks, I feel that Judeau, who plunges into a battlefield with no sense of obligation, is too much of a saint.
>>172
There are aspects where I’m lured by money and food, and having witnessed Yazaan’s cruelty, I only joined the AU.
I don’t think it’s very different from Beecha until Rina is kidnapped.
>>179
Even after I convinced myself that Rina was dead, I chose to fight while still feeling overwhelmed.
I think it’s good that the friends who are with you are also nice.
>>172
In reality, both mentally and in terms of what they’re doing, even as a 14-year-old kid, they are a true saint.
Even if the conversation moves forward quite a bit, Beacha still maintains the stance that Neo Zeon is fine with him.
Mondo changed a lot because of the Moon Moon incident.
Judo is a business for my sister’s tuition.
>>174
If you look at the disaster of the Argama, you’ll immediately understand that it won’t make any money.
I’m currently chasing ZZ for the first time.
Sometimes, amidst everyone saying strange things, you might be the one saying the most rational thing…
On the contrary, things are completely chaotic during normal times.
>>176
In other words, this guy is the type who doesn’t get carried away by the atmosphere.
>>183
Basically, don’t let your heart be caught up in the battlefield.
Beach is pretty much maintaining the way he was when he lived in Shangri-La.
>>176
If I don’t pull myself together… in situations like that, I tend to act on my own to try to change the circumstances.
I thought they were quite suitable for the role of captain.
I might dislike Quess after all.
Despite conceding many goals, they score few.
ZZ Bright is so terrible that it’s scary.
>>182
I thought that Emily’s descent was really unnecessary.
Beecha’s narrative before re-entry into the atmosphere is the easiest to understand, so to speak.
From an ordinary person’s perspective, that kind of maneuvering makes sense.
I think it’s the funniest that Rina was the most eager to get Judau on the Argama.
>>186
I prefer the older brother who fights over the delinquent…
I wonder if they never thought about things like dying in battle.
>>186
I think I wanted to change my brother, who has decided to live a life doing things only for himself.
In the end, that place didn’t change much, for better or worse, until the very end.
>>186
Getting a job from the military is likely more decent than working at a junkyard.
Judau, angered by Neo Zeon using the natives of Earth to fight, shouts, “Are there military personnel who use civilians?!”
Yeah
It’s a mystery why El, who is also a good woman, ends up with Beacha.