I’m happy if a demon that has an overwhelming amount of invalid absorption reflection is created and is active.

I wanted to show the people of Tokyo the light together with Walter, but why did it suddenly turn into “Let’s summon demons from the demon world and mess this world up!”? That happened.

Did you take the chaos route?

>>1

I went.

I thought the people of Tokyo would be saved like in Shin 2, but I was surprised that it was the complete opposite.

I only know Megaten 1, 2, and if, but doesn’t it seem like there are a lot of homages to the first game in 4?

>>2

“Maybe the feeling of wanting to die now, when I’m having the most fun and at my peak, is truly how I feel.”

If it were a great story about protecting Flynn, that would be fine, but if it was meant literally, it was a rather incomprehensible way of thinking.

The people of Tokyo feel that demons are nothing but trash… so they feel this more seriously than the Eastern Mikado country, which is why it’s impossible to be guided by demons.

>>3

I’ve been bullied by demons all this time, so there’s no way I’m going to listen to the words of Lucifer, the king of demons, now. I’ve felt this way since the days of Shin Megami Tensei 2.

That’s right, 4 has a return-to-the-origin style, so it has a storyline that combines elements of 1 and 2.

>>5

On the contrary, the 4F felt like Persona.

It’s not just about everyone having fun together, but more importantly, the straightforward development of good versus evil.

The total annihilation route actually clarifies good and evil as a premise, and it feels like it’s intentionally going for a bad ending.

>>10

Although I was surprised by the attribute N, when you think about it, the yellow bald guy from 4F was the most straightforwardly villainous in the series.

Personally, if you’re going to play 4, I want you to see all the routes.

>>6

Doing the second week was a bit tough, so I just watched a video instead…

I was impressed that the not-so-likable Lord Hugo has become such a great character.

Jonathan gets really scared when he combines.

But why can’t people be compassionate! I dedicate myself to be an example.

The story feels like a sequel, doesn’t it?

You can also see the outcomes of each route.

Before it even starts, Flynn has already been reincarnated, so it’s not so much Shin Megami Tensei as it is Flynn Reincarnation.

The end of Route 4’s chaos is nice, isn’t it?

I like to see the weak being trampled properly.

>>13

It’s nice to see the proper side of chaos.

>>19

4 is sincere in both C and L in different directions.

>>13

It turned out to be a route that wasn’t what I wanted to do.

Isn’t there a different way to create a world that is as the strong desire?

I really like the scenarios and world view of 4…

I liked listening to bits and pieces of what happened when talking to the Tokyo mob.

In the second week, let’s extort money from our childhood friend.

People say he looks weak or bald, but I really like the design of Lucifer from 4.

The design of the throbbing gauntlet and the part where Walter comes out from the second form.

>>17

It’s interesting to think about a baby coming out with a Walter scarf wrapped around its arm…

I realized that I was completely manipulated by this little devil…

>>17

Is that strange one Walter?

Angels often have a lot of creepy yet nice designs, but demons were mostly simple.

I really liked it, but I wish there was a bit more density in the final part.

I was happy that there was a little bit ahead in that world with F.

They were a character that was like a bundle of rebellious spirit.

You’d be surprised to suddenly be at the mercy of that creepy Lilith, wouldn’t you?

>>21

It’s not a spirit of rebellion, Walter.

I’m a young person who has a lot of passion but doesn’t know how to express it.

That’s why when I’m shown how to do it, I get led along.

I like Walter, who has become a strange meme overseas.

I suddenly like the ending where the Earth gets destroyed.

That alone can truly deny the will of God within the story of 4.

>>26

But that’s still a losing mindset.

>>28

I love those “it’s not suitable for the ending of the story at all, but it is what it is” kind of bad endings.

Because it can only be done in a game.

>>28

Well, it’s only natural that there’s no future since they are fully focused on denying the will of God.

When I go to eat in Tokyo with Lucifer or Merkava, I usually get a lot of strange looks.

What the hell is in that thing?

>>27

Demon

The Millennium people of True 2 were shocked that what we were eating was actually demons.

The people of Tokyo in true 4 eat demons casually.

>>30

I want them to be shocked that instead of eating demons, they were breeding and eating Nandi, Shiva’s vehicle.

>>30

Wasn’t there a line like “I guess I have no choice but to eat this…?”

Well, I was eating heartily.

That arm is wearing Walter’s scarf.

White men are too insidious…

The will of the people of Tokyo, even if it means twisting into a tribal food to survive.

>>35

Oh, so that’s what it was! I was like “Inaba no Shirousagi and food!?” but I finally get it now.

>>54

Huh? Is the explanation of the worldview and setting revealed in the DLC additional encyclopedia on the 4th floor?

Is it not possible to see it now if it’s DLC?

It’s fleeting that both Yona and Waru have only been used as catalysts after the decision.

Is it a relief that I was able to fight together with my friends on the 4th floor, even if just for a little while?

>>38

I already have it, so I’ll do it eventually.

There’s also DSJ, but that’s a different series altogether.

I was surprised when the tacky tin robot appeared in 4.

>>60

It’s been quite a while since SJ was released…

If you say it’s uncool again, I’m going to do a bondage fund.

>>60

It was lame, but SJ was really interesting.

That suit is ugly, but it starts to look cool gradually.

It’s uncool, but…

>>60

The SJ preceding DSJ was released before 4, so it is closer to a guest appearance.

>>60

It’s not a robot, it’s a super high-performance suit! The appearance is like that, yeah.

Even though they’re both devoted in the same way, it feels like Yonatan steadfastly upheld his beliefs, while Walter somehow got easily manipulated by a bad guy…

I’m glad to see you looking lively as Satan in F.

Since both you and I are tainted, let’s die together here! I really like how extreme it is.

I like the L end of 4 because it’s refreshing.

If I can eat it, I definitely want to eat beef.

>>44

The Tennoz Shelter is nice, isn’t it?

The True series centers on the theme of free will given to humans by the Judeo-Christian God.

Since it is free will, like Adam and Eve did in Eden, it is possible to betray God.

Even if you betray, it’s still within the realm of God’s thoughts.

So I understand the feeling of considering a self-destructive ending as something special.

>>45

Since even demons are created by God, it is actually true that everything Lucifer did can be seen as God’s will.

It’s a classic interpretation in Protestant circles.

The theory that Jonathan Walter was switched with someone from another world fits quite well for me.

>>46

Ever since they returned from the otherworldly Tokyo, the two of them suddenly step on the gas, right?

>>46

“When I came back, you were there!” It’s funny how the lines slightly contradict each other.

I like that during the collaboration in the bond route, the species become human Walter and human Jonathan.

The people on the 4th floor have no doubts about the ingredients at all, so I can feel the toughness of someone raised in Tokyo.

>>51

I’m not good with machines, so breaking them is great!

>>62

We must properly consider the will of God.

That aside, you will destroy it.

Jonathan is shrewd.

>>51

It’s nice how they’re equipped with machines that spread poison, leaving everything in a state of utter ruin.

It’s good that humanity is unlikely to be saved, as God probably wouldn’t allow it.

>>76

Well, that machine and the spirit after that were both taken out by Flynn, so things are probably going to get pretty chaotic from here on out…

But I can’t forget the feeling from an anonymous comment that the four idiots might quietly make a comeback after that.

>>53

Because the monologue is the voice of Merkabah, they probably seem to have revived…

That’s a cow… It’s a cow…

Demons are defined by the observer’s perception, so it seems they become incredibly weak when thought to be a hood.

The minor battles became too tedious, so I started spamming Megido-type attacks halfway through.

I like the dark system of red balls and cows that Tokyo residents use to survive.

I feel sorry for someone who goes by the name Hood XX…

Jonathan said, “I’ll also disappear and kill the devil!” It’s sincere, but I want him to be rewarded more… That’s how I feel.

People who just started can’t know what happened to Kiyoharu-san or what happened after the blazing Tokyo because there is no DLC.

>>67

On the contrary, is there really such an important DLC?

It’s such a waste that characters like Kiyoharu and Kaga, who have such elaborate designs, don’t get more screen time.

It’s too much to recognize even chupacabras as hooded creatures, let alone rabbits and foxes.

Is the package with the DLC not out yet…?

Yes!

Tennōzu’s boss, Beelzebub, makes a strong impression as it appears with great preparation.

Kougasa Burou… Why is he not on the 4th floor…?

>>78

I liked both the design and the voice, they were cool…

>>78

90% of people are so engrossed in the story that they don’t notice Kogasaburo’s absence.

>>87

I was really surprised to find out that Kougasaburou is a character from Megaten…

I’ve known about images that are obsessed with breasts for a long time, but for some reason, I always thought that character was from Kamen Rider.

>>99

Well, the design is like that, after all…

>>99

The person who designed it has worked on things like Kamen Rider, so it shouldn’t be a mistake.

>>99

Wasn’t it the job of a designer for Kamen Rider?

Jonathan is too noble compared to the past Ro factions.

>>79

At an early stage

Rules are important, but it’s your hometown, so let’s go.

It’s nice that you do that for me.

DSJ is also good.

I want you to try going to a minor battle and listen to the grand and cool BGM.

I thought we had made up a bit after being thrown into a different timeline after our falling out.

The coolness of the Demonica suit can only be understood by playing SJ.

Because there are many elements, there were times when it was said that SJ happened before the true fourth.

The old ones (like Shin Megami Tensei 1, 2, and Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers) are connected, but after that, there are no connections.

Super cool suits and familiar Buddha statues are fan service.

(The Eastern Mikado Kingdom in chaos due to demonic genes)

Also, SJ was really high in difficulty…

The expected clear level is probably 99, right?

>>92

Blatant help, Kouryu, is appreciated.

>>92

It’s either the final boss or it’s just being way too much like the final boss.

>>92

If I can reach the level to summon the rescue ally Kouryu, then I can manage somehow.

It’s nice that both the desert and the blazing flames try to return to moderation.

>>93

After all, it’s nice to have some degree of lawlessness…

I guess it’s better to have rules, isn’t it…?

Even Walter, who understood that it’s easy to agree that the strong ones get to decide,

Well, when it came to calling a demon from the demon world, I was a bit taken aback…

It’s really terrible that after setting the rules, they show their true colors.

>>94

The moment we start talking about summoning demons, destruction is certain.

Conversations are so subdivided by purpose that I completely ignore those I’m not interested in.

Was it convenient if used properly, like with funds?

>>98

I made a lot of money by targeting wealthy demons with stories like Shaxx and Barbatos.

It was fun using the fund and chatting about useless things with the boss.

>>121

I can talk to the boss…

I tried the fund a few times, but didn’t make much money, so I was making money by searching for relics.

I thought it was a little worse, but the swarm that appears at the Tokyo Metropolitan Government drops expensive morning stars, so I was thinking of going to earn some later, but those guys stop dropping them after defeating Quebico.

>>155

As a result, there were many incidents of Flynn extorting money from childhood friends in the second week.

The dedicated conversations are well-crafted, so they’re fun!

>>163

It’s terrible that there are insults for skills you don’t have unless you’re on a loop.

If you liked it, you would probably like the revised version with various issues fixed in 4F.

Anything other than Lasdan…

>>100

But everyone says that it’s unsatisfying because there are no individual last dungeons in 4…

Regarding Kiyoharu, I honestly won’t know what happens next unless there’s a DLC.

The devil often deceives with sweet words that are pleasing to the ear…

I keep saying this, but I want to do 4 on the 4F system…

>>106

Just adjusting the stats and giving strengths and weaknesses to attributes is good enough…

I only know of Flynn asking for healing during battle.

I can’t help but think that the desert no longer resembles wax…

>>108

Because it is a world where the order of God is enforced.

In other words, the L in Megaten is created based on divine standards, making it seem unreasonable to humans.

It’s natural that nobody tries to go into chaos because it’s human order.

4 includes quite a bit of respect for 1, including proper nouns.

On the contrary, I saw someone who first experienced Megaten with 4, confused, asking if this is connected to 1.

I feel like I’ve been bringing around a modified Minotaur all this time.

This guy is Steven.

Somehow stronger than a bald person.

>>115

The Nanashi Party + Futsuo Aleph people Shura Fren is a bit too much…

>>115

Futsuo: “Steven!?”

Aleph: “Steven!?”

Human Shura: “Huh? Who?”

Flynn: “Steven!?”

I liked the three fools vibe of Jonathan Warta Furin, so I love the desert and the explosions… I was sad when both of them were killed.

SJ feels like you have to prepare for bosses that are more about surprise than high difficulty.

>>119

So I saved it here before the boss.

>>119

I could win without doing it, but I didn’t know you could deliberately feed the pig to apply a debuff…

>>119

At least when it comes to Ouroboros, I think the difficulty is generally high.

I think the difficulty is pretty insane, to be honest.

>>119

Stop Asura Loga…

The support that was the strongest for the Minotaur is too much of a hindrance.

Since 4 is a numbered entry after a long time, it really feels like a respect for the old works.

On the contrary, it feels like the 4th floor is going to be done in a modern style.

Thinking about what kind of world the fiery Tokyo has become, it is sad that Kiyoharu-san is never rescued.

Even with measures in place, the painful Ouroboros is still good, isn’t it?

Not good.

Isn’t Alice just too cute? I didn’t realize it in the first one, but with the illustrations, she gives off a classic Western lolita vibe, and I want to be stepped on by her…

Moreover, its excellent resistance and the convenience of the randomizer made it incredibly reliable in the latter half.

>>126

Alice from 4 is actually cute because she has the lost and weak attribute.

>>126

There are people like that all over Japan.

I know it’s not very well-received, but I like the Four Archangels from 4.

I like Director Amemiya’s creature design.

4 may have an overly strong DLC, but there are nutrients that can only be obtained from it.

>>129

When I just got to Tokyo, I was preemptively attacked by Ashuraman x3, and after being shot at x3 and getting smugly repeated actions, I thought to myself, is this game really okay…?

Since I can’t attack from this side on the map, there’s always a possibility of being attacked first.

The naming sense is incredibly good.

>>141

It’s national defense, but a special move!?

SJ has enemies that are either pixelated or have a very high intent to kill.

>>134

I love the system that takes advantage of the fact that everyone can imagine status based on appearances from past works, right?

It’s great when the Mosaic Demon goes on a rampage, right…?

Medusa might have struggled the most against the Minotaur.

I thought the design of the 4 Minotaur was a genius invention.

>>140

The combination of a human skull and a cow’s mouth is beautiful and always enjoyable to look at.

>>142

The atmosphere is great, but it’s better if they all get wiped out so that the enemy’s attacks are stable…

>>142

An ending where you cooperate with demons to rebuild houses is nice too, right?

>>142

I wondered if that kind of catharsis is something from Megaten…

I understand that those kinds of things are the most popular, but…

So I’m personally glad that 5 omitted such catharsis.

Ah, so they can still do those tricky little things.

I like being able to tweak skills to some extent with the inheritance bug.

The Command of the Great Archangel.

I like how the Magao that I used at the beginning of the 4th floor comes into play at the end.

In other words, I feel like the final boss’s random hit technique in SJ can still kill you if it hits you multiple times in succession.

I don’t remember having a hard time with Ouroboros…

I didn’t like the design of Medusa from 4, but I actually quite liked it.

I have a memory of a statue that looked just like Mem Aleph rolling around at Hongwanji.

It’s terrible that it’s better to restart the Minotaur battle as soon as you pull Walter.

I want a remaster of 4 that includes all the DLC and everything.

Look at my demon partner!

Since the final boss in SJ was Gyoza-san, I didn’t have much trouble.

When you look at the side quests, you can see that the world setting is quite well-developed.

>>159

I liked the quest to take photos of the bar.

Suddenly having my daughter eaten alive by a demon, and I, the mother, am still alive; it’s painful.

With the boss BGM playing, the declaration that comes boldly at the beginning is incredibly cool—it’s a deadly spiritual national defense weapon.

Can you remake 4 using the 5 engine?

It’s nice to fund my best friend, who became a demon, in a loop play.

There were members in the 4F who said they were part of the Justice Ashura Society, but isn’t it true that things like the red balls and upside-down Hills haven’t been forgotten?

>>166

I have a sense of pride that I was protecting the security of Tokyo with that, so I don’t think it’s strange to claim to be justice.

The group that likes 4F the most is probably the Persona faction.

I want a 4+4F remake using the 4F system.

A bundle of complexes that refers to his younger brother as “Luxuries.”

There are nutrients that can only be gained from a fallen older brother figure…

However, since I’m a local, I got lost a lot.

Even if you tell me the name of the place, I wouldn’t understand it.

>>172

Even though I live in Tokyo, the roads are too disconnected, and I can’t get there!

>>172

Back then in that thread, even Tokyo residents were getting lost.

Since I’m primarily traveling by train, I don’t really know.

Even for bosses, there are individual conversation texts prepared, and there are differences for states like confusion and sleep, so it’s really hard to keep track of everything.

The 4th installment does have more of a Persona flavor rather than MegaTen, that’s for sure.

That’s probably why I like it.

I loved the quest where you fight the Hunter in front of Odin in 4, so I felt a bit sad when I became a beast Ultraman in 4F…

Since the 4F’s companion route was not this one, I switched to the all-kill route from the second playthrough onwards.

I don’t like a pretty Gian…