
War!
Get the support from around and quickly have an heir made.
To choose a good guy, I end up taking many concubines.
Why are you so devoted only to the strange things…?
Because the house will split, even if they are foolish or incompetent, the eldest son will inherit and listen to what wise people say.
A bast child more capable than the legitimate heir will only become a source of conflict…
>>5
If the heir has a large heart, there are examples like the Maeda family where the heir successfully adopts his younger half-brother…
The thread image suggests that the legitimate son isn’t necessarily incompetent, which is the key point.
>>8
My fiancée is a monster of political power.
If it’s just a little unreliable, it’s better to elevate the eldest child.
If someone is clearly ill or has a seriously problematic personality, then it’s understandable.
>>9
That’s how it feels with Yuan Shao’s blunders.
Furthermore, the influential retainers began to act on their own…
The legitimate son is certainly capable enough to be the son of a general, but it’s bad that the illegitimate child is a spitting image of him.
>>10
If I hadn’t been marked with scent by Waka, that would have been bad.
>>13
In this manga, Yoshimitsu seems to have a vibe of “on the surface, he appears to like others, but deep down he doesn’t care about anyone else.”
If there was no scent marking, I’d probably be doing something like “Being just like me means you’re a dangerous person! I’ll kill you!”
>>10
I see, you really look like Takauji.
I think it’s better to have a legitimate heir.
Well, it’s possible for even brothers to split apart…
I don’t want to make a second generation of the Yoshimitsu type…
It depends on the degree of clumsiness.
If the retainer supports and the damage is minimized, it would be safer to properly designate the eldest son as the heir.
If the order is wrong, there will be backlash from the vassals who supported the eldest son, which is quite dangerous.
In times of chaos, it might be needed, but in times of peace, having the ability to see through is more suitable.
>>15
I think I could have taken over the world if I had made this guy my successor.
The world must have been even more chaotic than during the time of Takauji.
Jokuto’s active scenes are only a few pages long, yet he is too good looking.
Having a good head on your shoulders, being generous, and being incredibly strong is just a mirror image of Yoshisada…
>>16
Moreover, it’s more proper than Yoshimitsu.
The Ashikaga clan is made up of crazies who battle within the family…
If Yoshitsune had been more like his brother, would things have been a bit more decent?
Tsuruhito without a facade is just a superhuman.
If they grow up, they might become like Yoshisue since they have such talent for it.
It was clever of Ieyasu and the Edo shogunate to make Hidetada the successor instead of the illustrious Hideyasu or Tadayoshi, and from then on to establish the principle of the eldest son inheriting the family.
>>23
There were times when someone went totally overboard, but it carried on properly.
>>26
The Edo period is mostly filled with the blunders of those documented in textbooks.
Conversely, it can also be said that not much else happened.
>>23
Basically, it should be primogeniture everywhere…
There’s a bit of a situation where the eldest child is sickly or weak, or there’s a child from a concubine… The youngest child is super cute and definitely wants to inherit this… or suddenly start saying things like that. Seriously, I can’t have a son, so it can’t be helped. I’ve been turned down multiple times, but I insist on getting a foster child from relatives. Oh, wait, a son was born now, but let’s just discard the foster child. It’s just a matter of having a head of the family going a bit crazy like that…
>>27
The legitimate son commits seppuku! Dies of illness! Has an eye disease! It’s unavoidable that a child from a concubine is raised, but you’ll just be set aside and the heir will be the grandchild! There are also the worst kinds of people like that…
>>41
Seriously? That’s the worst, Suwa.
>>41
This terrible bastard is trampling on Suwa…
>>23
Yasuaki was a good older brother who appointed his younger brother as a general…
>>23
It was also admirable to make it so that they could be taken from the Three Great Houses when it comes to the crunch, rather than being absolute.
The shogunate itself became able to continue its existence.
In the early Edo period, it was better to find an excuse and suppress it, but as it entered a stable period, suppressing became more troublesome, so when there was a discontinuity, the direction shifted towards adoption for continuity.
>>35
Prohibition of late-stage adoption…
>>43
The relaxation of that situation, along with the surplus of ronin due to the abolishment and the rising social unrest, was influenced by events like the Juyū Masayuki Rebellion, which led to the sense of “this is bad”…
>>23
Hideyasu is originally a child born out of wedlock and has been adopted, so he is out of the question as a successor.
When I read about the Kanno Disturbance, there’s a theory that the legitimate wife, the Akahashi clan, disliked Naoharu, but it’s not confirmed in the historical records. However, it seems certain that she had a physiological dislike for him, which made me laugh.
The Tokugawa did an amazing job working properly in their respective roles.
Even if it’s a bit off, the Edo Shogunate is strong for safely wrapping it up with the cabinet.
During Iemitsu’s time, there was a similar situation where they had to decide which way to go, but they properly chose the heir…
The third generation of the superhuman who took a direction unlike that of Yoshimitsu.
I heard that the right side will struggle a lot in the future.
>>37
To be honest, the young lord who is skilled at escaping is on a completely different level than Tokiyuki; it’s almost transparent.
If you spend too much time trying to discern things poorly, factions will form and it won’t lead to anything good.
“If the level is the same, declaring early on ‘This person is the successor!’ will likely lead to success.”
…Well, sometimes when the successor dies, it still doesn’t turn out well after all (looking at the Chosokabe clan).
Yoshinobu is generally stronger than Naoto.
There are people who may be inferior in martial arts but are suited for governance.
In the first place, this guy isn’t particularly bad at all.
A capable ruler who merely lacked the talent of a hero in times of war.
Wasn’t Ieyasu trying to make Tadayoshi his successor, only to be scolded by his retainers?
>>47
Creation
>>50
Damn it, is this also a creation?
In times of turmoil, causing succession issues can divide the house and potentially lead to its downfall, unlike in stable periods.
>>48
So I had to kill my brother, didn’t I?
The criticism against Yoshitsune-chan in works like “Taiheiki” is mainly due to the fact that Kyoto was taken at a crucial moment, which is one thing, but what really went wrong was that all the necessary personnel for maintaining the regime, including the emperor, were abducted.
The left side will eventually reveal some of the parents’ casual traits…
The Ashikaga clan is normally filled with super capable individuals even without divine power…
>>56
The Ashikaga clan in the early Muromachi period has an incredibly thick layer.
It can be said that Kai had gained power by sticking close to the Hojo clan during the Kamakura period.
On the right, it is nothing but a fool according to the Taiheiki, but looking at other sources and achievements, they are quite outstanding.
I really can’t help but think that there must have been someone among the authors of the Taiheiki whom they personally disliked.
>>57
I managed to cover it somehow, but the Emperor and former Emperor of North Korea, including the three sacred treasures, were abducted…
At that point when he joined the Southern Court, he had already become just a royal family member A, and there are circumstances where the three sacred treasures were directly certified as fake by the Southern Court.
>>71
If it’s been certified as a fake, then why are you going out of your way to recover the North Korean sacred treasures and immediately hold a parade for their return?
>>71
To be blunt, if there is anything wrong with Yoshitomo, it’s that he believed too much in the Southern Court.
The recovery of Kyoto by the Southern Court was a complete surprise attack resulting from betrayal.
>>57
In the Taiga drama, although he was foolish and spoiled until then, he was seriously lectured by Yoshitsune towards the end and awakened.
>>57
Who on earth is this?
Chokuyu repeatedly behaves in a way that makes it seem like he betrays all of his gathered subordinates, giving off a unique sense of poor upbringing that is different from Yoshimitsu and his brothers.
>>58
Well, Yoshitsune is betraying everyone around him, so he is clearly inheriting the bloodline of Yoshitsune.
>>62
Kusunoki is rather living while being concerned about the intentions of the samurai under his command.
Isn’t it true that Yoshitune’s life was mostly just about cleaning up after those battles with Takauji?
>>59
It seems that the second round of the Kanno Disturbance was quite proactive.
>>59
That’s just the way it is for a second generation.
If you can’t clean up after yourself, the rapidly expanding household will collapse and perish.
>>72
Ieyasu settled everything and died in peace.
Indeed, the Divine Lord is amazing.
>>72
Hidetada ended up abolishing the fiefs one after another.
Tadatoshi doesn’t acknowledge it, though.
It is an unusual situation where both Nagayoshi and Takashi, as well as Yoshimitsu’s mother and legal wife, all believe without question that Naofuyu is Yoshimitsu’s child.
>>60
How similar were they?
I think it must have been really tough because Yoshinori-kun also died young at quite a tragic level.
But Naofuyu and Yoshitsune aren’t really on bad terms.
>>66
The reason Yoshitsune was most hostile and did not agree to reconciliation was because it was against Naoyoshi.
>>73
Nobuyoshi: “I just took in my brother’s illegitimate child as an adopted son to increase his rank and give him a chance to participate in the successor race…”
>>73
Taira no Yoshinori and Taira no Naoyoshi
Yoshitsune and Naofuyu were not that hostile towards each other.
Takauji and Naoharu
Because Noriyoshi and Yoshisuke had a really bad relationship, it became more complicated.
>>66
There may have been a personal relationship, but I think that in addition to the influence of Akihashi Nobuko, they probably hated Naofuyu even more than Yoshitoki.
>>79
Oh, is that how it was…?
Brothers can be the best allies but can also become the worst enemies.
Although they are portraying the historical part so well,
It is said that it is not popular in the reader survey.
>>68
To be honest, I was surprised.
I thought the historical parts were popular because the current Jump readers are mostly adults, but it turns out the original character parts are popular.
>>86
Regardless of the reasons that adults have for thinking that way, I think there are quite a few adults who are interested in history.
>>107
There are many people who love history, but…
People like that probably won’t vote for a creepy-faced Yoshimitsu drooling.
>>68
If you portray everyone else in such a villainous way aside from Naoaki and Ogasawara, of course that’s how it will turn out…
>>96
I don’t think it’s just a matter of the enemy’s side.
>>96
It seems that the return of the spoils from Lord Yuki had a significant negative impact.
>>123
To be frank, I think the criticism was directed at the cowardice of solely blaming Yuki for everything.
>>96
Originally, they used the well-known warrior as a stepping stone to elevate the time of the previous generation, which should never have been considered.
From the kids’ perspective, the Moro brothers might seem like enemies with bad personalities who aren’t really that strong.
>>153
Historical stories just have ugly enemies with disgusting faces once you take off the signage…
Yoshimitsu recognized that Nagayoshi was a hopelessly obstructive presence to the establishment of shogunal power and his own position as successor, so he wanted him to die quickly.
The late years of Yoshimitsu are characterized by procrastinating in a muddled situation.
I think Yoshitsune-kun is quite an SSR son just by having Yoshimitsu as his successor.
The second generation is often portrayed as extremely bad in a safe manner.
Ryūkei Ichirō’s Hidetada, or
>>77
Transferring the securely handled hatred acquired by Ieyasu to a stable Iemitsu is, to put it mildly, of very high difficulty.
Well, the fact that Yoshitoki disliked Naoharu is only mentioned in the Taiheiki.
Until the confrontation with Tadayoshi, he was normally granted a position close to Yoshitsune.
Since the young runaway and Taira no Kin’emon do not desire the same things, they are treated as if they get along well. I wonder if one might dislike someone similar to oneself because they desire the same things.
When I research the daimyō of the Edo period on Wikipedia, it’s a parade of the sickly and adopted children.
>>81
It’s strange, but do noble people tend to manifest such genetic disorders more easily?
>>89
A wet nurse raising a child of noble birth must be properly dressed.
Apply plenty of powder to the exposed areas such as the breasts and face.
And at that time, the white powder contained lead.
This is how children grow up being exposed to lead from infancy, making them more likely to become unhealthy.
>>103
Didn’t anyone notice that white powder is bad?
>>118
Everyone thinks it’s like this because everyone is like this.
>>124
Is it because it’s a “konamon”?
>>133
Huh?
>>118
In Europe, it wasn’t until quite a later period that people realized lead was harmful, and they used it in tableware.
Lead dissolved by vinegar or alcohol brings sweetness to the taste of food and wine, which led to its popularity from the 18th to the 19th century.
>>81
There are really bad things about face powder, seriously.
>>91
A baby sucking on a mercury-coated nipple and a daimyo.
>>81
There are cases where it’s connected through adopted sons-in-law, but it seems like it’s okay to pass on the family line in that way.
Is it that the family name is more important than the bloodline?
>>108
Home is more important.
>>108
There are quite a few families that, after the legitimate heir dies, adopt a child in a rather acrobatic manner to succeed them.
>>145
I was planning to have my adopted child inherit the family estate, but I ended up having a biological child since I got too carried away for my age, sorry about that.
>>81
Not only children of daimyos in the Edo period
In the past, great figures were often weak or children died young.
There is a theory that the makeup of mothers and wet nurses was filled with mercury and lead.
>>81
In the previous era, there were likely many who died before reaching that stage, leaving no record, but it’s astonishing how many children of feudal lords in Edo died, leading to significant genetic discontinuity.
Both Yoshitoki and Yoshitsune, the second generation must have strong perseverance to overcome great crises.
From my brother’s perspective, I wonder if he feels a sense of resentment about why I can become the supreme ruler.
I don’t really want to take over my parent’s business.
Although I had many children, most of them turned out poorly, that’s Takeda Shingen.
Uesugi Kenshin ended up in a terrible situation after death because he did not have children.
>>87
The Uesugi were also weakening themselves by fighting among brothers…
It’s also quite common for siblings to fight over children, isn’t it?
>>90
Yanzhe usurps the throne.
Gisen may be young, but at just 7 years old, he has a clear awareness of being a chief commander and is able to express his opinions, which is impressive.
Chōfuyu’s Reputation
Naoyoshi: “Naofuyu is your brother’s child, right? Please acknowledge him! Also, make him the heir.”
Takashi Sizu: “I think it would be best to deal with Lord Naotō soon, as he is a hindrance to Lord Yoshiyari.”
Mother of Yoshimitsu: “Naofuyu-dono is truly adorable.”
“Shōji’s legal wife said, ‘Where did you get such a child? Please do something quickly as it will disturb Yoshin.’”
The samurai of the West said, “Lord Naofuyu is truly the child of the shogun! We will follow you anywhere!”
Tadashi: “That’s why I’m saying it’s not my kid.”
Yoshimune has been raised in Kamakura for a long time, so the place where he lived with Naotaka is close by.
Akahashi Nobuko has an extremely narrow position due to her background, so if Yoshitsune cannot become the heir, she would really have no standing…
“Younger Yasuko Sawaguchi, getting furious with a beautiful face, saying ‘Don’t put Yoshiyasu’s position in the “Taiheiki” at risk!'”
I’m not very familiar with the history of this area, but I do know that the thread image starts a rebellion.
The second generation has the big task of ensuring that the prosperity of the first generation does not end as an individual affair.
>>101
In that sense, Hideji is clearly lacking in ability, and Hideyori is suggested to be quite willful and averse to studies based on various episodes, so expectations for the continuation of the Toyotomi regime are low…
I was thinking about the Yuan family.
Yoshitsune’s younger brother, Motohira, is also competent but dies young, unlike his brother.
During the Edo period, there was a significant decline in birth rates.
>>111
As culture develops, the birth rate declines.
>>117
Children won’t die in wars anymore… and it costs money.
Takanori betrays those who are stronger than himself, and he is much kinder to those beneath him.
>>115
Well, Takashi Nao, NaoGi, NaoFuyu, and the Northern Court have all betrayed as well, so it’s a total betrayal from all sides.
>>120
Tachifuyu Tadayoshi is more about conflict than betrayal, and the idea that Takashi Tadashi betrayed is just a common theory.
As the second generation, I would say that Yoshinobu-kun is quite perfect except for his lifespan.
The third generation is weird.
It’s strange that I’m not getting any hits like Yoshimitsu at all.
Does talent like Sonshi not get inherited?
>>122
It is obvious that talent does not get inherited, given that the descendants of the strongest couple in Japanese history, Minamoto no Yoritomo and Hojo Masako, are not impressive at all.
It would be good if they were direct descendants, but according to the rules of the Warring States period, as long as they carry on the family name, it doesn’t matter if they have no blood relation at all.
In this era, the strength of the imperial relatives was akin to the strength of power, and Yoshitune’s mother came from the Hojo family, making that area vulnerable.
>>128
Tadashi could not forgive it.
The fact that Hojo is seen as weak is not the fault of the legitimate son, yet he is regarded as lower than that Naofuyu.
Adoption and inheritance have been quite common among the samurai class regardless of the era.
There are observations that the inheritance method, which is unimaginable in Confucian societies like China, is culturally quite different.
Wasn’t the Hojo clan amazing for successfully taming Ashikaga?
I was betrayed by Ari.
>>132
The Hojo’s rule was just about killing the vassals one by one who had become unmanageable.
I am planning to educate with the intention of passing it on to the eldest child.
When expectations are disappointed, it is generally tragic.
The legitimate son is called the fool of Owari.
Is it alright to let this continue as it is?
Please be assured that mental instability and moodiness are passed down firmly to the descendants.
No, I really can’t believe that Ieyasu could act so obviously if Hidetada were alive.
This is a boys’ manga.
Did Tokugawa Ieyasu’s eldest son also commit seppuku?
Even though it’s a manga that has so many perverts, I’m so happy that the main episodes with Waka and the others are more popular…
The Hojo clan of Tokimasa had a lineage known for producing a high rate of children with above-average values for around 150 years.
>>148
The excellence of the successive shikken is clearly distinct from other bloodlines, so the education must have been good.
Since there is a possibility that the heir may die young, even if the first child is born, I will have another son with a secondary wife who is closer in age to the primary wife.
There is a possibility that something like Suruga Dainagon could happen.
I had properly considered and prepared for the successor, but now Iwakura Yoshimoto has had an accident.
>>154
Because even the top ministers right below him died completely…
>>161
It must have made Yoshimoto tear his hair out in hell that Ujimitsu let Matsudaira Motoyasu die and then betrayed him.
It depicts Yoshitoki as a useless person who entrusts all practical matters directly to Master Nagayoshi.
I think the young people who have been taking it easy in the countryside for about 10 years are pretty much the same…
>>156
It can’t be helped because it’s a fact.
Well, it would have been fine if these two hadn’t fallen out…
>>156
To be honest, the scale of activity is so different from what’s written there that we aren’t even at a level where we can be compared as people.
>>156
In the first place, the kind of diplomacy with the provinces is being handled by Yoshimitsu.
>>156
But thanks to the semen sprinkler in the meantime, blood is inherited, and because I’ve accumulated strength during that time, I can reclaim Kamakura once more…
>>170
No one is holding me after the layers of the ceremonial folding…
>>156
It’s not just leisurely; the fact that young people, who had nothing, are creating a village and living like warriors, even if it’s in the mountains, is quite a big deal.
The Hojo reign seems to have been sustained by the superhuman abilities of successive shikken in exchange for their lifespans.
>>157
They are running politics without having outstanding authority or military power…
>>174
The military power of the Hojo clan during the Kamakura period was the strongest.
As for Yoshitsune, he has a favor towards Noriyoshi…
Is the relaxed lifestyle in the countryside depicted in manga…?
It’s better than being dead; it’s a survivor from the Hojo clan and the top of the central government.
Everyone seems to agree that a brat from a lowly background who doesn’t really understand things is probably the son, suggesting he really looks like him.
>>169
In other words, even though his mother has a low status, before Yoshisada became Naoyoshi’s adoptive child, he received a considerable level of treatment.
In the Taiheiki, it either glosses over that part or actually says that the person was Yoshisada, whom Kōmei really disliked.
The mystery level of Go-Daigo here has significantly decreased, which is terrible…
I know the third generation is really amazing, but I don’t know anything about the second generation at all.
>>173
It’s plain, but after Yoshimitsu, he’s been dealing with various troubles, which is quite impressive.
It all circles back to Minamoto no Yoritomo being at fault.
The heir is someone who steadily takes the top position, is persistent, and doesn’t suddenly lose their composure.
Is that okay?
>>177
Rather, what are you dissatisfied with?