I thought there might be quite a few of us who don’t remember that the border is set as an exile government from another neighborhood.

The Border Headquarters is created by the royal family’s Mother Trigger that has defected to Midden, so it’s unclear whether it can be handed over to others in the first place.

Maybe it’s impossible, but…

>>3

It’s normally possible, as long as we have my sister.

On the contrary, what is impossible?

>>4

That’s the first big point to criticize, though.

If the police and military learn about the border’s equipment, it won’t be long before a certain country’s leader is killed by soldiers in chameleon gear.

Ah, I accidentally came across a huge spoiler while collecting the paperback volumes…

…Well, it’s fine.

Even if you can’t see it, as long as there is no interference, it is better to interpret that a situation of mutual restraint has been created.

>>9

They are definitely either military veterans or spies from some country…

The decision-making authority likely lies with that princess, so she would avoid any risks that could mistakenly lead to her losing the Mother Trigger.

>>10

That’s the same condition for the boys and girls who enter the border, and it’s just an element that can be learned later on…

Rather, since firearms and melee weapons are based on existing ones, it’s clear that those with experience have the advantage.

The reason Ikko-san is strong is also because he has experience in kendo.

>>158

That’s rather a justification that even existing weapon veterans will at best only reach the upper B-rank.

>>158

Isn’t it strange that that is produced in the swordsmanship of that world for that reason…?

>>158

It’s better to just call a professional instead of relying on a boy soldier who has only trained at a club level…

>>12

If you eliminate that option, it would fundamentally change the atmosphere of this manga.

>>12

That’s what being a working adult feels like.

>>31

That’s true, but I wonder if there are regulations that would draft them as reservists in case of an emergency.

If you’re going to tamper with it, it’s just a matter of recognizing it correctly rather than delving deeper into it.

>>17

I like the power play that resolves all kinds of questions by saying “the executives are excellent.”

>>17

Well, I can tell that you’re doing really great off-screen.

>>17

The fact that it’s the same world as Lilienthal allows for too much recklessness.

That evil organization has the Border’s back, right?

>>76

Isn’t it that the rugby players are monitoring so that the border doesn’t do anything strange?

>>89

Is it okay for the glasses that are breaking the rules within the border?

>>93

It seems like it could be useful for crushing the border when the time comes…

Adults who haven’t trained are generally below Ossamu.

The combat trigger is at a level that cannot be used.

The existence of borders and tri-on related technology is merely a stage for moving the characters.

Isn’t it pointless to describe the stage in such detail?

The worldview is Japanese, but it doesn’t equal Japan, so it’s not strange if real-world common sense doesn’t apply.

The question of how to teach a large number of people is probably at a stage where you can finally start addressing it only after establishing an organization focused on the basics.

>>22

Since neighbors are unknown entities, there is no fundamental basis to begin with.

Standardized education cannot respond to diverse situations, so it emphasizes independence.

Is it said that various tactics are born from that?

Nevertheless, it seems like they should at least provide a lecture on the basic performance and handling of the trigger… Perhaps they are doing it but just not depicting it.

>>22

In the first place, there is no know-how anywhere, so there are no people who can teach in a classroom setting.

No country has gathered soldiers to this extent with one-off triggers like in Neighbor.

>>22

First, the performance of the Trion body is too high, so the tactics assuming ordinary humans are meaningless.

It seems like parts that could be used, like when a sniper takes a shot and then moves, are already being casually repurposed by people like Higashi, so if it’s at that level, we can think of it ourselves and it won’t make a difference.

One of the executives is genuinely a member of an evil organization, so it’s scary, isn’t it?

I understand the parental instinct to want to keep away from death, since they both defend and invade.

Is being a student just a kind of youth?

It seems like it’s a situation where we’re going all out to deal with the invasion from another world, so as much as possible, don’t interfere with your politics, and we won’t interfere either.

How useful are the basic training of general police officers and soldiers in combat that involves jumping and leaping?

What’s terrible is that even the basic tactics within the border can change rapidly due to the development of new equipment.

>>35

Just by increasing the simultaneous launches from 2 to 3, it seems like the sniper will dominate.

>>35

The neighbor also throws out Keri Dawn and Rambilis with normal triggers.

I’m currently in the process of experimenting and accumulating know-how to teach C-class in classroom settings, right?

>>36

Due to the significant damage caused by the large-scale invasion, it seems that we really have to properly train the C-class as well, right?

>>45

But if we send soldiers who can’t use the bailout to the front lines, there will be a lot of corpses, so first we need money.

>>55

Speaking of which, there isn’t a bail-out for the training trigger, is there?

I’m counting on you, Karasawa!

>>59

Mr. Karasawa’s responsibility is too big!

I wonder what kind of negotiations they’re having where they make the border management pay money but not have a say.

The organization has grown at an incredible speed, but its management method is based on its originally small size.

The fact that it’s bad is considered a problem point, and this is depicted in the latest episodes.

By the time this generation becomes adults, things should be better, right?

The young organization at Border hasn’t been able to create a solid manual.

Since the counterpart is a Neighbor, it cannot be helped that the common sense of existing organizations does not apply.

There is also an aspect of conducting closed environment tests to solve that.

I’m still in the second generation, starting from a state where I didn’t understand anything.

It was only of reference, but I read actual military books, and thanks to Mr. Higashi, I built the foundation of being a sniper.

>>42

What the heck is this long-haired old man…

The fundamentals of existing combat are based on the know-how of conventional weapons, and in battles where it’s unknown what will come at you, it seems they prioritize developing on-the-spot response capabilities.

Those who are most suited for the expedition are the ones who can go.

An answer is prepared in the work!

If you ignore it after hearing that, then it can’t be helped…

>>51

By the way, was it explicitly stated that Mikado City is in Japan…?

I don’t know about the old border, but it seems that even the current border has significantly improved shield performance, and effective tactics are constantly changing.

Because there isn’t much passage of time in the story.

Before improvements can be made after the issues arising from relying on individuals, the original work will be completed.

Recently, I also found Trion soldiers that open gates, apart from the expeditions and such.

The world of Lilienthal is Japan.

Since the enemy has started using bailouts, I suppose the war on the neighborhood side will change too.

The tactics using Trion did not exist in the Black Universe, and the Neighbor’s tactics basically involve small, elite teams invading and suppressing, so there isn’t much know-how on operating large military forces with triggers to respond to invasions.

>>61

There is no know-how to prepare a large number of Trion soldiers, after all, in Ginkgo.

>>61

The battles involving Trion soldiers are quite large in scale, aren’t they?

Considering the setting, it seems there might be organizations working with Neighbors around the world besides Border.

It’s just that it doesn’t appear on the screen.

RD0 and 1 are the mother and the crown…

Just the fact that the technology for Trion bodies, which regular weapons can’t affect, is leaking out is already bad.

>>65

The realm where the possessing power can seize hegemony.

In general, the spread of trion bodies poses a risk of increasing obesity.

Isn’t it about time to animate it again?

>>68

I guess I just have to change my expression repeatedly…

I want to see the part where Kaki-zaki thinks of herself as a sage and the passionate moments in the anime.

As can be seen from the way the press conference was conducted using sakura and scapegoats,

The parts that can be done are properly incorporating the methods of adults that exist in the organization.

I believe the rest is a matter of difficulty and priority.

Reality is pouring a mountain of money into space development, and it seems like sponsors will flock to neighborhood exploration.

>>70

Thank you, Mikumo-kun…

>>70

That’s something Karasawa-san is said to be handling well.

I think there was a setting where Neighbor’s technology was being shared as much as possible.

The rugby player takes care of all the troublesome things off-screen.

>>73

Those who play rugby are different.

Isn’t it really only that old guy from Aft who can teach combat know-how to C-class rookies?

>>74

I get hit with righteous arguments…

>>79

If you can be taught at a single-digit age, it might be fine to just brush it off like that…

Isn’t it mainly about growing through our own trial and error?

In the first place, an army that can’t do anything without trigger technology is practically useless, so outside of Border, there’s hardly any real power to speak.

>>83

I don’t know if it exists in this world, but it seems like the Self-Defense Forces are in a really tough situation.

>>86

It’s quite sad that there are regions in the country where wars are happening, yet there’s no opportunity to help…

>>86

The Self-Defense Forces exist, and besides responding to neighbors, there are plenty of other jobs for the Self-Defense Forces.

>>94

Even if there are jobs other than military, if nothing can be done in the crucial area of military, it’s absolutely acceptable to reduce the budget.

I definitely don’t have time to play the main story, so it’s fine if we do an original anime A-rank battle instead.

Due to the issue with the Trion organs, even if it’s handed over to a skilled soldier, there’s a high possibility that the Trion ability would be 1 or 2.

I remember that there was a discussion about not wanting to depict it too much because it gets wobbly when it comes to other countries on the Midden side.

The power source of the organization that protects the world from another realm was a foreign exile regime! If this dirty secret becomes public, it would be fatal.

>>90

Right now, on the surface, it’s a robot from another world that can’t communicate.

>>90

It is no wonder that one might suspect the incitement of external hostility.

>>97

Unilaterally establishing an exile government!

I feel it’s better to view the border as a regular company organization rather than as a military.

I’ve especially come to feel that way lately.

An organization that suddenly takes over the world with superweapons and enforces citizen checks and conscription would only evoke negative feelings…

The technology of Trion itself is being researched at universities and isn’t exclusively held by Border.

If a person with disabilities could move with a trion body regardless of their trion abilities, that would be amazing.

After that, we could apply it to construction like at the main base.

If you don’t recognize the settings like the exile government of the neighborhood or that the base is moving with the mother trigger, which were not mentioned in the early stages…

Even without borders, wouldn’t it be possible to develop triggers with the Earth’s scientific power? I was thinking the same thing.

Recently, there have been people who just want to disrupt things mixed into the thread, and it’s quite unpleasant.

I wonder if Chika can join the trion and operate it.

Did we really watch anime right up until just before the closed exam…?

>>114

To be precise, it ends when we win against the Ninomiya team.

No descriptions of the matches or subsequent events for the Nasu, Katori, and Suwa teams.

It’s a convenient setting that a living body can never be harmed by a trion body.

I think you should accept it as it is and read it.

I feel like the more I want to have children fight and make mock battles one of the pillars of the work, the more the areas for critique increase.

The Trion organ grows in youth and weakens in adulthood, but if trained, it can be maintained to some extent, so we first have to gather young people.

>>118

That can also be seen as a convenient setting, but since it’s something like muscle strength, it’s understandable that it would mainly feature younger performers.

In reality, there are sports that are considered to be for has-beens in their 20s too.

>>118

Well, by the time the current members become adults, the adults will be at the forefront, and in the meantime, they will be nurturing the young people in the background, turning into a somewhat normal organization.

It’s better to strengthen the Trion soldiers for cost reduction, after all.

>>119

The Neighbor that the world knows is a Trion soldier, and they might use a Trion soldier with a different design line…!

>>119

Since they are basically disposable, they are not suitable for use during peacetime, although they can serve as a force in emergencies.

Child (25 years old)

I can’t say anything because I don’t understand the true purpose of Commander Kido, which was briefly mentioned in the beginning.

For example, if the goal is to “completely eliminate the trigger within a few years” like in Attack on Titan.

If we are disturbed, it would be bad, so we cannot cooperate with the country, and there is no need to have a long-term perspective.

I want a wide-range trion device scanner as soon as possible.

There are probably many people suffering from side effects.

>>124

Unless it’s a special case like Yuma, it’s generally something you’re born with, and only later does it become apparent as a side effect. It’s tough for types like Kage and Jin-san…

>>133

It’s quite serious because it’s a comorbidity with mental illness due to physical ability.

People won’t leave their homes over minor matters.

I think someone who goes out of their way to move here is crazy.

>>135

I think it’s quite a serious matter that enemy weapons frequently appear and cause destruction or abduction, even without a large-scale invasion happening…

On the contrary, why is it that only snipers have a proper system in place for joint training and promotion based on top performance?

>>142

Because it was a position that Mr. Higashi created from scratch.

>>142

Is it because the basic approach is simple, focusing on “moving, aiming, and shooting”?

If it’s about sniping, existing military applications are more effective.

The attacker, gunner, and shooter have many detailed techniques, and it’s still not clear which one is correct.

If the private sector is doing it on their own, the government will probably leave it alone.

If Japan is the model

>>144

If you think of it as a bear hunt on a slightly larger scale…

The political part, which is off-topic and not particularly interesting even if depicted differently, is generally managed by the rugby players.

I think kids who nitpick the setting when the theme of the work isn’t even there are terrible at reading manga.

Despite being told repeatedly not to leave the world’s crises to middle and high school students, I can’t help but feel frustrated that it’s come to this now.

It’s probably all being resolved by the rugby players and their supporters’ organization.

It’s not going to be an interesting story if you jump in there.

Many parents might agree to defend against being attacked, but if they are told that there will be a counteroffensive, they would likely be taken aback and think, “Hold on a minute!” Yet, it seems like they just go along with it.

>>151

Huh? Is there a plan to rescue the kidnapped people or something?

Because with a chameleon and someone who messes with memories, anything can happen.

Isn’t it fine to call you something like instructor, though…?

Is the relationship with the country that bad?

>>154

I don’t even know if the relationship is bad or not…

>>154

In the first place, how can a person with no knowledge of Trion or Neighbors provide guidance even if they were called upon?

Even for basic and fundamental organizational structures, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they will work with neighbors.

Was there an answer to the idea that if it’s a crisis for the Earth, we should oppose it globally?

>>157

There is nothing.

For some reason, we left it entirely to the Japanese syndicate.

>>168

I thought that since only triggers can counter trion bodies, if Border were to be destroyed, it would mean the end of the world, but is that not the case?

>>168

When you seriously think about it, it becomes a question of whether the government or the United Nations would take major action against an unidentified abduction.

>>157

It’s not a problem at the level of a crisis for the Earth.

The number of annual suicides has only increased a little bit.

>>157

Nothing…

The current situation is that we have gathered outstanding young people through the Trion organization and somehow managed to make it work.

Research has progressed, and we’re just beginning to reach the stage of using Trion soldiers.

It’s true that there are many points to criticize if you think about it calmly.

It is true that if we develop the conversation around that, the content will completely change.

I think it’s appropriate to have a distance where we usually ignore each other and occasionally discuss things like this in such situations.

How much do ordinary members understand that neighbors are humans and that there are many countries in the neighborhood?

It seems that they are pretending to be Canadian and don’t think that the neighbor is at the border.

I feel it’s understandable that things aren’t being managed well because the upper management is severely understaffed.

If a lot of people hadn’t died in the first invasion, the organization would have been much better.

It is often overlooked, but there is basic training for others besides snipers.

It’s not just about competing for points in ranked matches.

Maybe there’s not much of a sense of crisis outside because of the gate guidance.

In the first place, this organization is a villainous organization after the world conquest is over, right?

Rather than thinking too much about that, it’s easier to just treat this like a club story about members with guns.

Somehow… there is something there…

Speaking of which, were there any foreign characters other than Cronin and Canadians in Border?

Moreover, they are paying me a ridiculously low salary.

It’s not the kind of wages you pay to a mercenary whose life is on the line.

>>176

What I’m concerned about might be this… It wouldn’t be surprising if the cost of equipment is a hundred times that in reality.

Complaining about the settings in shonen manga is completely a real-life blind gesture.

There seem to be quite a few teams that think, “If only we had a sniper…” so there might be a shortage of snipers at the regular member level.

And Arafune-san is pulling two good-looking snipers.

It seems like snipers are not very popular.

After all, it’s the sword, isn’t it?

>>184

It’s understandable that Raygust isn’t popular.

There are no middle or high school students who specifically use a lance in Monster Hunter!

Everyone uses swords and dual swords!

It’s a bit contradictory to come to a thread where people are discussing settings and then say “Don’t think about it, just enjoy!”

Commander Kido clearly has a frightening face like a dictator of fear.

If it’s about approaching from the government’s side, that’s one thing, but they don’t seem like the type to request cooperation from someone they don’t know.

>>188

On the face…

With the existence of Amaterasu, the technology level has finally reached the point where we can afford to undertake large-scale long-term expeditions.

The sniper trigger is just a cheat performance compared to others, but it’s similar to existing weapons, right?

It’s strange that people like Higashi and Arafune, who are combatants, are thinking about training the younger generation!