The story development is trivial, but other than that, it’s flashy, moves vigorously, and is a lavish battle throughout.

What are you guys unhappy about?

Just because you can move doesn’t mean it’s good; there’s a limit to how much enjoyment you can get from that.

It was moving, but the battle itself was more interesting towards the end of the Super arc.

The final episode was of course memorable, but there was nothing as impressive as the action in the Kefura battle.

I hear people talk about respect, but I wonder if what the original does is really respect.

It’s more like a rehash than respect.

Show me something newer than that.

Hey… Shenron…

The fact that that bug’s setting ultimately serves just to stop by the store is laughable.

First, it would be nice to defeat it neatly in Super 4, but physically defeating it is absolutely impossible since you have to hit the back of its head three times.

Even Piccolo-san normally fails at doing that three times.

It was conveyed that Toriyama-sensei put a lot of effort into creating the setting of the demon world, but it felt like the time spent on showcasing that world made the adventure itself seem bland.

Full of mysteries

It feels like I only watched the final episode just from the way the main text is phrased.

Even though they already showed Ultra 4 in a child’s form, they don’t seem to understand the absurdity of reacting as if it’s their first time seeing it.

I don’t think you need to bring up the subtlety of 4’s performance, hey.

Seriously, why did Super Saiyan 4 debut in a childlike state?

I thought Neva had unlocked her potential, but it actually had nothing to do with that and was the result of her training!

>>25

It seems like they made it so that 4, which became unusable due to the infantilization effect, can now be used thanks to the old man’s latent abilities being unlocked.

Piccolo is useless.

I can only pray that this won’t be the last Goku played by the veteran.

>>27

There are games too, so it’s all good.

In the DLC of Dima

Mr. Toriyama is surprisingly not skilled at world-building.

Dende the Namekian saw the model of Shenron and said it’s a different dragon.

It’s skillful how they depict misunderstandings with other cultures through casual dialogue.

You will defeat him…

In the first place, Goku is supposed to be a martial artist, yet it seems like he has almost no combat experience, and suddenly becomes muscular, struggling in hand-to-hand combat.

Fight more rationally.

The super 4 rubber pants are unbelievably uncool.

Even in the final battle, it’s like, what are we even fighting for?

Two versions of the super four figures can be released for children and adults!

Since it’s something you can remove yourself, you don’t have to hit it hard.

It’s just a matter of doing three consecutive hits with Shipapa, but Piccolo…

The reason why there are 20 episodes is a mystery.

>>37

If there are no constraints for Cool, this one is more natural, to be honest.

>>37

If we were following the style of creating it after Akira Toriyama’s script was done, it might have ended up looking like this.

I wonder if someday this level of movement will be used in a remake of an old work.

The animation staff worked hard.

What is a stick-tight bug?

I hesitate to say this, but the appeal or coolness of fight scenes is…

I think the World Martial Arts Tournament against Piccolo is the best.

Even now, it moves a lot, and the composition is incredibly intricate, it’s exciting!

Is there no intention to unify the official merchandise between the Third Eye Goma and the Giant Goma?

>>44

Maybe the one who planted the eye and the one that became gigantic are different…

It was tough to see the same thing happening for four weeks against Zarc in ARC-V during the later part of DAIMA.

When I was really into it, the battles back in the Z era were also less drawn out and more elaborate.

I love the battle between Goku and Perfect Cell.

Wasn’t there a friendship with Goriro?

For example, even if the Great Demon World is the stage, I’m thinking of various minor settings in the Great Demon World for sub-events in the game, like a sticking bug to bring in Vegito.

I wonder if it turned out this way because I included explanations for all of them in the work.

The design of Goma is really terrible.

But the fans were moved to tears, so this is the right answer.

What are you talking about? I’ll kill you.

I thought that since the sticking bug is a new element, a new design of the combined warrior would come out.

I was wondering what would happen to the name…

The fact that the strength of Goma remains constant regardless of the Saiyan form is not exciting.

The shock of episode 19 was quite incredible.

Episode 18 has become completely unnecessary…

The Demon Brothers have always had a good reputation.

I like it too.

The scene of repeatedly battling a giant enemy with the same lineup doesn’t get exciting at all.

I wondered a little about Selmax too.

The first battle with the Tamagami was quite good.

I think Arins wasn’t bad as a scenario progress role either.

>>59

The most enjoyable part of the entire DAIMA was when the second demon world and Arin’s group were simultaneously tackling the Tamagami.

The impression is that the design of Goma is being criticized as much as the story itself, being seen as ridiculous.

>>60

I think the overall impression would have been quite different if the design of the enemy characters had been better.

>>62

Well… no matter how cool the design is, a final boss that is only impressively resilient and sturdy without being particularly strong is just not that great…

Tamgami was much better…

Even if the victory conditions are clearly stated and are just trivial, no matter how spectacularly my allies are powered up, there are no elements to get excited about.

It will only end with a teleport and then bam bam bam…

>>61

While watching Vegeta, who was exhausted until just now but is holding his ground as Super Saiyan Blue, Goku is saying that he himself is worn out from the previous battle.

The fact that someone could become Super 4 by their own power is often puzzling and confusing.

What would they think watching the great demon world being blown away by the Kamehameha in Tamagami 2 and 3?

However, making everything from the Kaioshin to the Namekians to the Cyberman all derived from the Demon Realm seems a bit excessive, doesn’t it?

>>65

There is no story-related meaning or gimmick there…

Even if there is no fat guy to greet me at first, since it’s the Supreme Kai’s home world, Warp can pass through, right?

I think it’s not much different from when Goku and Piccolo started saying they were aliens!

>>66

I wonder if as we get older, we start to feel that these kinds of justifications are not good.

To begin with, I wasn’t that interested in the demon world in Dragon Ball, so connecting it with that… makes me think.

Did you do it in the final episode?

>>67

You are a minister!

It’s really sad that Piccolo has no proper role throughout the journey, and when the time comes, he just fails normally.

There seems to be a tendency to force connections with original elements and continuously rehash past elements, thinking of it as fan service.

You really don’t need to watch anything except for the last three episodes from the second cour…

>>70

Is there any point in watching the early stages?

>>80

There’s an episode!

It certainly moves slickly and flamboyantly.

I think the sharpness of the movement was worse than during its best time.

>>74

Gagagagga! It’s serious! The song is lame, but it really gets everyone pumped up!

Just because the animation is smooth doesn’t mean the action is cool, and the decisions are just rehashed from the past.

I’m curious whether the design of the Jiren was intentional or if it was completely forgotten and just happened to overlap by chance.

Well, even if you’re curious about those settings, you can think of it as a story from a completely different world line than Super.

>>81

But here, the original author is heavily involved…

Why Cybermen?

>>86

Thousands of gags

Weird joke.

With a power difference that can easily pierce through the opponent’s body with a Kamehameha, there’s no way I can’t hit them in the back of the head three times!

If Super Saiyan 4 didn’t come out with this, it would have seriously been so bad that I wouldn’t have had any material to work with.

The old witch is allowed, but that Cyberman who only thinks about killing opponents by spewing acid from their head or self-destructing…

I’m making Majin Buu.

Well, they never interacted with the main characters, though.

The final episode was good until the end.

I see you don’t use clingy bugs…

>>90

Huh? The battle where Kuu settles it by hitting his head as a bonus?

I don’t think they really care about the settings, but I feel like they often forget things like the strength of the red Porunga or Piccolo forgetting the Namak language, and it seems like DAIMA tends to forget a lot of things too.

I still feel that the child transformation battles lack impact…

The mismatch in body proportions with the other person is also out of sync.

>>92

It was also hard to understand how much combat power decreased due to becoming childlike.

If I had come as an adult, Tamagami wouldn’t even need the Kaio-ken level.

I guess it’s good to just think that it might have been a raw material for Potara.

The price of Darbra’s stock just went down…

The power balance is excessively chaotic mainly because of the final battle.

I wish the Super 4 that appeared in Daima could be made to never have happened, even now.

The past Demon Lords who lack the intelligence to use the Third Eye to defeat Tamagami and monopolize the Dragon Balls.

Well, Dabra has been brainwashed from the beginning in the original work, so he’s just a weakling…

The adventure part is probably the kind of story that I originally wanted to do, something like Mega Gaki…

Honestly, I don’t dislike it, but in terms of the flow of DAIMA, it’s just noise.

>>102

Is this a plot that was kept on the back burner as a theme other than Dragon Ball?

>>106

They probably won’t make it unless I cover it with Dragon Ball, and that’s probably how it is.

>>111

The Sandland movie didn’t sell that well, huh…

>>116

The scale of the release is one of the largest in the country, reaching just under 600 million.

Dragon Ball feels like getting full during the Frieza saga, striving for seconds in the Cell saga, and desperately devouring dessert in the Buu saga.

Even if they make a sequel or something, I’ve already seen everything I want to see.

SSS Porunga (DAIMA)

SS Super Saiyan 4 Goku – Third Eye Gomar

S Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta

Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Kid)

B Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Kid) Majin Buu

C Tamagami (Enhanced) Kraken – That big kid over there.

D Dabura, Demon King Ku

E Piccolo

>>104

I think the red Porunga, who didn’t even regard Goma, is about four steps ahead.

If good animation is all it takes to succeed, then Space Dandy would be a huge hit anime.

I understand that you wanted to achieve Super Saiyan 4, and it’s also fine that you were able to become one through training.

Why are they doing a presentation like, “Here’s what the kids can do, and now a surprise from here on!”?

I have a feeling that this will be the last anime where the veteran will play Goku, and I have mixed feelings about it in a bad way.

>>108

I suppose it’s probably the last one.

When I watch the final episode, I think they must have considered the landing point, but the structure of episodes 18 and 19 is definitely strange…

Even before his transformation, Frieza is fighting in a way that can destroy planets.

The battles of Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan 4 are on a small scale, aren’t they?

“The ones with pointy ears, like that guy and this guy, are all from the Demon World!” made me feel like the romance and mystique that the Namekians and the Kaioshins possess was fading, and I found that somewhat unpleasant.

>>113

The Great King of Worlds was born from a tree, and the Namekians came from another dimension; these were settings that existed even at the time of Super.

The Kaioshin was born in the demon world regardless of role, and that changes the nuance a bit, doesn’t it?

It’s fine that Dabra is overwhelming and Goma is in second place, but even brainwashed Dabra is at a Super 2 level.

And the super-enhanced Third Eye Goma is at a level where it can fight even in its raw adult state!

>>114

It’s fine to completely recover with Beho-ma this time, but…

Even though I’m just fully healed by Behoima and getting beaten up, I should definitely feel pain by looking at Goma’s reaction, so why am I not giving up?

Why can this guy keep getting beaten up endlessly and still laugh?

>>123

Even though the body is weak, the mind is probably stronger than anyone else’s.

>>134

Let’s just say this guy is the king of the demon world now…

>>123

They’re screaming with an amazing expression, aren’t they?

A guy with such a strong heart wouldn’t find 99 years in a comfortable prison meaningful at all.

>>135

What kind of punishment is a comfortable prison anyway…

It’s a fact that there are a certain number of people who have the image that, like in a thread without a name, it’s fine if the story is dull as long as they are fighting in DB, right?

>>117

Most old DB movies have that kind of image.

I used to think that as long as the action scenes were good, the story didn’t matter.

Even if I’m shown a great battle scene in a story that’s basically crap, it didn’t excite me at all, so I’ve reconsidered my thoughts.

In the case of movies, I really think there isn’t enough time, and the scenario part can’t be helped.

I don’t really want to say it, but I thought while watching that Nozawa-san must be finding it pretty tough to raise her voice.

>>122

Considering the age, it’s amazing, but isn’t it about time to hit the limit?

>>122

You’ve known that for a long time, right?

It’s strange that the DB community can say that Toriyama won’t die while producing works as bad as DAIMA.

I wonder if it could have done a little better as a movie.

It’s over a foot long.

The event movies in games are more satisfying than those in anime.

Well, it’s a mix of the best parts, so that might be expected.

I learned that if you’re troubled by responses, you can just say “uh-huh” and it’ll be fine.

>>130

Woohoo!

The consequences of putting off changing my voice out of fear of losing customers are finally catching up to me.

I think this was a chance for a smooth generational change in voice actors, just like in Gundam…

If the voice eventually returns, well, changing it during childhood wouldn’t have drawn much complaint, right?

If we broadcast it, there are many worse parts than that.

They brought up cutting steel and I wonder how those weaklings are processing it.

Originally, it was Akira Toriyama himself who said, “The battle won’t look good with a child’s limbs, so I’ll make Goku an adult…”

Why do I deny myself for some reason?

No laughing allowed!

>>141

Uhyohoho…

>>141

Hey, Shenron…

>>141

You’ll definitely get hooked!

Woohoo, it’s finally released!

I feel like there was something called “Katchin Katchin Steel” as well.

Shall I say it clearly?

Certainly, the action was great, but having the enemy be Goma doesn’t create much excitement.

Goma and Deges’ 99-Year BL Book in the Pot

Well, humans also process steel.

With three balls, there are three battle members.

I now think it would have been nice if Goku’s group, Vegeta’s group, and Piccolo’s group had distinguished themselves in three separate routes.

>>152

That said, what can Piccolo do right after the Buu Saga…

>>156

I think there’s definitely room for enhancement since the idea that the Namekians have their roots in the Demon Realm has been introduced.

…I wonder what this setting was all about.

>>162

I want a reason to place Dragon Balls in the demon world.

The setting where Piccolo can normally understand words might have been a distraction.

…I wonder why I was called.

>>156

I kept quiet about it, even when it was decided that I would fight Tamagami.

…I guess it was better that we didn’t bring them after all, right?

There are actually prisons that seem more lenient than that.

https://www.sankei.com/article/20160411-YBDHLG66ZFPGJOZZ3KIG2N24CY/

The design of the Third Eye Goma seems like it was created with a contrarian spirit and habitual drawing.

The people of the Great Demon World use magic! Be careful!

…I didn’t do anything particularly special… rather, there were more crazy machines like soul-sucking machines, ray guns, and warp devices.

>>155

Let’s say that a machine that amplifies magical power won’t work for those who can’t use magic.

The animation was good, but it felt like there wasn’t anything that would be useful for future DB content development.

>>157

Even if Toriyama himself were alive, I just can’t see the world of Dima continuing.

Goriro’s electric shock is about as powerful as magic.

I suppose it was more tolerable than Resurrection ‘F’.

>>161

We’ve also been getting crushed by armed minion squads, so there’s not much of a difference…

The story was bad, but the battle scenes were quite good except for some parts that felt like a military battle.

I’m in trouble if the content of the script gets altered.

Please write an adventure script.

I think it’s fine if it’s a lovable underdog character on a gag route like Pilaf, Goma.

It’s not good that you end up battling as the final boss with the same face.

There were many idea memos that weren’t used in the main story, even in past works.

It felt like they forcibly crammed everything in, whether trying to extend the length or thinking it was a waste.

Are DB fans suffering from the obsession of chasing Dragon Ball too much, just like when they were with Mashirito?

In the end, it’s a mystery whether there was really a need to create a new series derived from the original work.

Still, Chō is incomplete.

>>170

There’s no problem at all if I casually continue from the world view of Chō.

The people involved aren’t stupid, so this poorly received series of promotional campaigns should be the last one, right?

There is no original author.

I honestly think that going back to being an adult just to fight the final boss feels a bit off…

Isn’t it a complete denial of the project that is supposed to have Goku, who has deliberately been turned back into a child, go on an adventure?

>>174

Did you go on a big adventure?

>>175

Hey… Shenron…

>>174

Because it’s only serving as a debuff dramatically, turning into a child.

Then it’s a matter of not having children in the first place.

>>174

At the point where you can’t give up Super Saiyan or Instant Transmission, it’s as if it doesn’t matter.

I thought the super 4 laps were really good, but everything else was painful.

I didn’t want to see Piccolo mess up at such an important moment…

>>180

Even if it were super heroes, it could have been resolved quickly if they had called Goku and the others, but they made a wish mistake…

The ending was pretty good, so I can’t help but think that if the process had been interesting…

The sorrow of Jiren, who has started to see Gomaar appear in suggestions, is unfathomable.

>>184

🤡 “I must explain why I have come to be considered as a candidate…”

The third eye is too much.

There’s really no point in Piccolo coming.

It’s enough for only Vegeta to come from a commercial standpoint.

>>186

If anything, it feels a bit emotional just making Bulma reminisce, like they’re going back to the old days with Goku and only Glorio Pansy…

I wanted the infinite recovery and enhancement to at least change its appearance each time…

It’s crazy that no one at the scene could say that this design overlaps with Jiren’s.

>>190

Maybe it was meant to be fan service after all.

There’s no meaning to it even if Bulma says so.

And no matter which impression you look at, the third eye is treated like crap by the fat guy who handed it over.

I don’t even remember their name.

>>192

The interaction between Panji and the mechanics wasn’t bad at all.

>>194

It was definitely better than the wrong name tempura story, at the very least…

I wonder what Piccolo really was…

Even though Debu ran for minister, he was overlooked and not hired on the spot, which shows that Kuu has an eye for people.

When you transformed into Super Saiyan 4, didn’t you have a reaction that was almost as if it was your first transformation, looking quite bewildered?

It might be an extension of the happy couple theme, but I honestly didn’t want to see Vegeta getting lured into the bath.

There wasn’t really any meaning in bringing out the Super 4 anyway.

I would have been happier if you had won with the unfortunate Super 3.

They say Goku was secretly training to become Super Saiyan 4, but I wonder where he was doing it.

If we were doing it on Earth, it would definitely be found out with the energy, so is it at King Kai’s place?