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[Medalist] Is the untitled “Beast of Ice and Flame” really that uncool?

The Beast of Fire and Ice Exhibition: The title “The Beast of Fire and Ice” was tentatively decided with the editor before the title of the medalist was confirmed, but it was rejected by the editor-in-chief after being told that it was “dumb!”

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Well, that’s lame.

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>>1

“It’s not ‘lame’.”

“It’s super lame.”

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At least this is not the case.

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I don’t really think it’s that bad…

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If the editor-in-chief hadn’t been there, would it have gone through? That’s scary…

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The editor-in-chief is meddling in things…

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I think it has a good 90s to 00s vibe.

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In other words… the beast of ice and flame!

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Kattobi Rekka was not selected…

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It sounds like the title of a fantasy light novel from a while ago.

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Beast of health and harm

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I don’t think it’s a title that should be given to a figure skating manga, at least.

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I was worried that it wouldn’t be attached at the back considering searchability when it was being adapted into an anime.

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>>13

What is worry…?

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>>13

It’s safe because it’s consumed in a bonus episode.

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There aren’t many sports manga with this kind of title, surprisingly.

There are many simple ones.

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>>14

I have a feeling that long titles are mostly something from Narou.

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>>37

The beast of ice and flame isn’t long at all for a title, right?!

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>>63

Beast of Ice and Flame: Late-Blooming Skater – It’s Not Too Late Even Now!

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Is it an isekai story?

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What’s interesting is that the author seems to have quite a lingering attachment to this title.

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Medalist!! It seems that it was also rejected.

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>>19

Haikyuu!! I guess it brings back memories.

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I don’t think it’s that bad if it’s a completely different fantasy-style manga.

This is lame in real competitions.

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Beast (the protagonists do not have animal-themed surnames)

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>>21

Sensed a slight flame from Mr. Apollon.

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I guess I just didn’t have a good sense for titles while drawing interesting manga.

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I think the overall naming sense is a bit questionable.

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It is easier for medalists to be connected with the content.

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Sensibility similar to 100℃ of blazing fire.

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I laughed when I was told that the title logo is more intense than the medalists.

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Has the content not changed?

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Even so, I can sense the Beast of Ice and Flame from the names of the characters…

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I was talking about the naming conventions for characters, and since my naming sense is pretty bad, I’ve been getting a lot of help from those around me lately.

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There aren’t many works with cool names in the ordinary reality stage, right?

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I lost the chance to change the title to something like “Ganba! Fly High” when it was adapted into a visual format…

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It might work if it’s a short story with two parts because it has impact, but it won’t work for a serialized work.

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I don’t think this is possible, but if you ask me if “Medalist” is the best title, I can’t say yes…

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One might say a beast of ice and flame.

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That’s cool, the beast of ice and flame.

This is definitely a type of naming that aims to retrieve the title in the final arc.

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>>38

No… it’s the Beast of Ice and Flame!

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>>38

From my perspective as someone who couldn’t become a singles player and became an ice dancer instead.

Inori is the true medalist!! No… she is the beast of ice and flame…

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It seems like it could be used as a subtitle.

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The Beast of Fire and Ice

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Find me.

Your own beast.

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I want to believe that it won’t make an appearance in the main story since it’s already being reused as a bonus short story in a standalone book.

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Leave aside the ice, what is that flame…

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I think it’s a good title.

It has a feeling of an anime that seems to be on NHK on Saturday evenings…

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I’m looking forward to the latest episode of Ice Flame~~

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You’re trying too hard to be cool~~~!!

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Well, it’s more like fantasy than sports, I suppose.

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Outcast

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BOW AND ARROW will turn into ICE AND FLAME!

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>>50

I’ve seen a rhythm game with a name like that on Steam!

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>>50

There’s a song called “ICE AND FLAME” on YouTube, and it was no good.

Moreover, it seems easy to turn it into a figure song.

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The editor-in-chief did a great job.

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Let’s create a flame effect while jumping.

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Ice and fire are things that boys like, so this could have worked for Jump.

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But… what if it’s the Beast of Ice and Fire?!

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>>54

Is it Earth, Wind & Fire?

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That’s so lame!

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>>54

A metal band that seems like they would release an album with an incredibly lame jacket.

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It feels like a battle manga with special abilities.

Or Detective Conan

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It seems that Professor Uobuchi is a being who has transferred from the Ice Flame Beast World to the Medalist World.

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How arrogant of you, being the editor-in-chief of a third-rate magazine…

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Only Inori’s name doesn’t have a beast in it.

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>>58

It might be that the structure was such that it becomes the “beast” of Ice and Flame at the climax.

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>>58

Because it is an existence that has escaped from the circle of skating.

Honestly, I don’t really understand what it means.

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Teacher, you really love this title, don’t you…?

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It’s rather scary that the person in charge has the same sense.

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It’s true that it’s not the title of a work set in modern times.

I see it occasionally, but…

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I should have taken it to Jump, after all.

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You wouldn’t be able to draw such a passionate line in a weekly publication.

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Frozen Flames Shrimp Fry

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I can understand the ice, but where did the flame come from?

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>>71

My heart… to the point of being burned away…

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>>71

Then let’s do it this way.

Flame on Ice

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I often think about how I used to pass through “Dettodetto Demons Dede Dedesutorakushon.”

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Because it’s Inio…

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Is it Freizard?

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>>73

Although I am a medalist…

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>>80

Is it a greedy set?

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The passion of the logo designer is incredible compared to the medalists…

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If it’s ice and flame, I want to say it’s not ice and fire, but ice and flame.

I want to go as far as Flame & Blizzard.

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I like that after a trial and error process, it’s become a bit confusing and we’re both saying let’s go with this.

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It’s Fraizer.

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I guess the ice and fire wizards and swordsmen will embark on an adventure…

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It’s easier to understand what sport it is than from a medalist.

I think those who are looking for figure skating manga, which is quite rare, would be able to hold onto this.

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(It seems you were influenced by A Song of Ice and Fire…)

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Well, logo design is usually something that is entrusted to professional designers rather than done by the creator themselves.

If that’s the case, then I’ve gone out of my way to commission a designer for this page… so I guess the teacher really likes it after all!

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At first glance, there probably aren’t many people who would imagine a modern stage sports play.

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It’s like an image of burning like a flame on cold ice, isn’t it?

I somehow understand.

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That being said, what about the medalists?

It’s not great these days to find a bunch of unrelated things mixed in even when you search.

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>>88

It’s a hindsight thing, but now we can completely dominate the search results…

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>>95

But I hope I’m not causing trouble for the general public!

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>>104

It’s a manga that can normally be recommended to the general public!

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>>104

If you think about things like that all the time, you won’t be able to create anything!

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>>104

Well, since One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach can coexist with other common nouns, it’s probably okay for Medalist too…

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The flame’s “en” is linked to the performance’s “en.”

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>>89

Performance… No… it’s Flame Technique!

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There are no works that include coined terms in their titles selling on the real-world stage.

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Because Freiza was wearing a medal, it was a seriously stylish title, but maybe the editor-in-chief was an anti-Jump fan…

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I’m glad things changed because there was a possibility I was teased and called “Ice Beast Senpai.”

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I feel like it would be okay if the protagonist were a boy.

For a girl, this has too much twist, or rather, it’s overdone.

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Medalist: The Beast of Ice and Flame – The Movie

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>>98

Is it the movie of Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai?

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>>119

As I thought, it’s Fraizard…

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>>98

Who are you going to eliminate?

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The fact that they have the English notation on the title logo emphasizes the tackiness and does a good job.

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Even with the same ◯◯, Demon Slayer is clearly a blade (sword) that slays demons.

The beast of ice and flame is too much of too much of too much.

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I think, “Oh!” if it becomes the subtitle in the climax of the story.

The main title is um…

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Right now I can search for it, but “medalist” is too generic, so I don’t think it’s that great.

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The Beast of Fire and Ice

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>>107

That’s lame.

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Well, it does seem like something that could be used as a subtitle.

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It seems to be selling really well because it ranked number one in the manga rankings on King’s Branch.

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>>112

They were giving out points on Amazon too.

A lot of people probably bought it.

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>>112

If anything, all volumes were ranked in the top 12 on Amazon.

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>>121

As expected, anime adaptation and Kenshi Yonezu are amazing!

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Well, since Hikaru-chan is doing wonderfully as a wolf on the ice, it’s fine to be a beast of ice and flame.

What about Inori?

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>>114

Awaken and become the ice flame boar.

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It’s more like tough or somber… the figure skating lacks the glamour that the poster requires.

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It really gives off the vibe that a second-year middle school student would like it.

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Blizzard Axel!

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Well, the beast of ice and flame is better, right? I feel a bit like crying thinking that I drew this page expecting a reaction like “Editor-in-chief has no sense.”

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Hikari-chan from the All Japan Novice was indeed a beast.

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The name is… Beast of Ice and Flame.

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>>126

What are you doing?

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Blizzard Frame Fang

Beast of Ice and Flame

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The medalist is somewhat uncool, but if I had to choose between the two, I guess I’d go with the medalist.

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If you Google “Ice Flame Beast,” the medalist will properly come up, so it’s essentially the official name.

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I don’t think of this as a sports thing when I look at it…

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The Beast of

Fire and Ice

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>>131

Hehe.

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>>131

So lame!

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As a medalist, I can at least imagine it being related to sports from the title, but this is too unrealistic from now on.

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Maybe it would be cool if it were simply called an Ice Beast…?

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I feel like it was in SEKAI NO OWARI.

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If it were a beast on the ice, it would still be forgiven… no, it’s the beast element.

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>>139

If you convert this beast to hiragana or katakana, it might improve quite a bit.

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>>142

Beast on Ice

Beast on Ice

…Hmm.

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If it’s something like a flame beast on ice, it might convey the nuance of doing something on the ice…

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I definitely think this title wouldn’t have been adapted into an anime.

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The beast element is fine with Hikari-chan.

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They called those who risk their lives for figure skating… the beasts of ice and flame.

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>>145

No…

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>>145

Yeah, it’s lame…

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Sports titles tend to have straightforward names or titles that clearly indicate they are about sports.

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Well, I think it was popular here too, but the medalist definitely has a better title.

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I think it was the right decision to change it because the title “Medalist” is catchy.

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Well, if it had been this way, it would probably have been abbreviated or called something else…

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>>151

Hyoenka… Hyoke mo…?

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>>153

Hyoke seems like some kind of strange creature…

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There are light novel titles that feel tough but still sell well, so I don’t know what the right answer for a title is, even at my level.

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People called them “~~”! I’ve hardly ever seen a scene where that name is used in works with narration like that, so it’s fine in “The Beast of Ice and Flame.”

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The title recovery scene is nice, isn’t it?

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That’s an Ice Flame Beast!

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A Song of Ice and Fire is cool, but it’s strange…

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What kind of situation would it be to search for a general funeral only for medalists?

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The outfits give it a strong fantasy vibe.

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It was not Mr. Tsukasa, but Mr. Honō.

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When I see the word “beast,” it gives me the impression that the protagonist is a tough-looking man in his 30s or older.

It might be good to turn the beast into some kind of animal.

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>>161

Worms of Ice and Flame!

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>>164

…Is it possible after going around once?

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>>161

Worms on the ice!

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Flame beast on ice… Hmm… I guess a flame on ice would be acceptable…

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I think if someone only has knowledge of the original title, they might misunderstand it as a fantasy sport with unrealistic moves like in Captain Tsubasa.

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The flame inevitably becomes noise.

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Beast of Ice and Flame

Is it abbreviated as “hyokemono”?

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When it comes to fire attribute beasts, are you talking about Cerberus?

Cerberus on Ice!

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If I do it like Ushio and Tora, it might work…

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Since the protagonist is a girl, it would be better to be a bit more pop.

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To bring out the beastly vibe, let’s make the protagonist a former delinquent who just recently started figure skating and is the strongest!

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>>173

Isn’t that Blizzard Axel?!

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As I thought, that guy is also a beast of ice and flame…!

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I will change the title when it’s serialized!

I don’t want that child to continue suffering with a lame title for the series…!

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If it’s a protagonist like Freizard, I can understand, but I can’t see how this is a skating story…

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>>178

Inori: “I don’t like skating… I like winning!!”

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About 20 years ago, there were editorial meetings…? They didn’t exist! It was an Afternoon like that…

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Your sense of style is crap!

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When you hear “medalist,” it doesn’t immediately make you think of figure skating, does it?

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A story about a tragic monster with a body temperature of around 1000 degrees aiming to become an ice skater?

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I wonder if there are any terms not used in the titles of soccer manga.

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>>184

I don’t think there are any throw-ins or anything like that…

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The title “Major” is misleading, and there’s also the precedent of the long process until reaching Major League…

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It really feels like Demon Slayer, so it’s no good.

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I don’t hate medalists!!

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Beast on Ice

It might be easy to associate it with skating since it’s similar to Disney on Ice.

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>>188

When asked if Inori-san is a beast, she goes “uuun…”

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The beast of ice and flame is one thing, but I think it’s impressive how they included a term like “medalist,” which is difficult to search for.

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I might be mistaken as saying it’s a bad thing, but it feels more like an isekai fantasy, right?

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But I understand why they want to use the word “flame” in terms of content.

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Song of Flames and Fire

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Should I make it a mandalist?

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The title BOW AND ARROW doesn’t really relate to figures at all, but it’s strangely perfect as the theme song for this manga.

It’s like the figure expresses a sense of rhythm and tempo.

It’s strange to say that this is the title of this manga, as it feels quite off.

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The Seabest of Fire and Ice

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If we’re going with a sports manga style, this one is fine…

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It’s funny how the setting of “The Beast of Ice and Flame (Side Story)” is all over the place.

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Ganbarist Inori

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Please add more loose four-panel comics that delve into characters from the bonus manga “Kōen no Ken” and introduce other characters!

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>>201

It seems they want to release volumes 2, 3, and 4 of the fan book, so somehow…

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>>201

I don’t care, idiot! More importantly, it’s the beast of ice and flame!

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>>209

Honestly, Hyouen isn’t that interesting…

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If you’re a real fan of Kenshi Yonezu, you should have made it FIRE and ICE…

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I wonder how many years it will be until Fan Book 2 comes out.

Hurry and give me the details about my dolphin-chan and Daria-chan…

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I was buying one episode at a time on Days, but it was cheaper on bw, so I repurchased the entire series.

The sense of satisfaction from the bonus is quite high…

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>>205

If you’ve been buying it one volume at a time, you should have the whole series in tankobon form, right?

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It’s hard to convey what kind of manga it is, and I feel a sense of one-sidedness, as if the story is already complete only in the author’s mind…

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>>207

Awful.

Honestly, I understand, but…

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The issue isn’t so much that the title itself is uncool, but rather that just looking at the title makes it seem like some kind of fantasy thing, which is a problem.

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There was a pretty good sale on Amazon, so I ended up buying the entire series, but I wonder if it’s ranked.

I wonder how much it’s selling.

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>>212

The entire series from the first volume to the latest volume ranked in the youth manga.

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No way, I’m definitely going to have the Beast of Ice and Flame serialized irregularly in the fan book.

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The latest episode could be said to be about the beast of ice and flames.

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In the final phase, the beast of ice and flame…! Is that how they say it? That’s so lame!

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It’s a line said by a rival character who is shaken after seeing Inori and the others clinging to victory, right? The Beast of Ice and Flame.

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No… it’s the beast of ice and flame!

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It seems like the author doesn’t actually like the title “Medalist”…

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>>220

The beast of ice and flame is serious!

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It’s a title that doesn’t really seem like a figure skating manga.

Just looking at the title, it feels like there’s a sense of confusion about what specific sport the medalist is involved in.

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It’s not good to call girls beasts.

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It’s the type of guy who melts the skating rink and gets complained about, right?

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The main characters like Inori-san, Hikari-chan, and the dolphin-chan are completely set, so there’s no problem.

The side characters are a bit iffy, but…

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