
It’s just something that gets you excluded…
I think it’s amazing that they were able to take action for the people during that era.
>>2
Is history moving?
>>135
I don’t know, but that’s how those around me see it.
I feel the same way.
A worthless person who stole Shu from Liu Zhang.
There’s an episode that seems like you had ambition since you were young, brother.
>>4
I’ll whip the officials who pulled such meaningless tricks and make them run away! At that point, it seems they didn’t have any real ambitions in their youth.
I was more unsteady than I thought…
Liu Zhang is… I guess it’s okay if that guy loses his territory…
The design of the old character is based on the premise that he will become the Emperor of Shu.
By the time of the Yellow Turban Rebellion, he had too much dignity.
>>7
At one point, I was called the base sergeant in the 5th squad.
Is historical brother also a muscle-brain?
In the past, Liu Bei had a face similar to Prince Shotoku.
This work is quite youthful.
In Musou, it’s always said that meetings are just for confirming the current situation, but most of the situations are…
Since I was requested and I’m going to join the reinforcements anyway, I didn’t have time to think carefully.
There are many situations where we have to rush into battle, so I guess it’s inevitable.
After actually going to the battlefield and carefully observing the enemy’s formation, the judgment made is quite impressive.
If the cavalry of Gongsun Zan charges like this, it will be bad!
>>10
I believe that not thinking about anything in advance or setting future prospects is what makes Shu, Shu.
If it were me, I would have already joined the military!
The attempt to take Shu was proposed by that minister over there, who sought to win the people over before coming to seize it, so this guy’s charisma is quite frightening.
It’s surprising that the age of the person inside isn’t that different from that of the previous older brother.
The Cao Cao prohibition order is amusing.
>>14
It’s unavoidable because there is a reason for it…
Because I’m the brother of the person inside Ryūson.
Both brothers have cool voices.
I think it’s a nice design that has a youthful look when smiling cheerfully, but gives off an imperial feel when the expression becomes more serious.
A worthless person who rebelled and took Yizhou, unable to even carry out the campaign against Zhang Lu as ordered by Liu Zhang.
>>18
I don’t like this guy because he makes fun of Zhuge Liang.
If Liu Bei in this game cries out like in Musou 6, it would be too painful.
It’s painful to easily imagine that Liu Bei would become like that.
>>19
The problem is that there is a possibility that it will be me who defeats Uncho…
If we mention dark aspects like the Xuzhou Massacre, the puppetization of the Han Dynasty, the murder of Hua Tuo, and the suspicions regarding Xun Yu, it would never end with that guy…
Liu Bei gets angry after being driven out of the castle by Lü Bu and provoked by Cao Cao.
I have obtained Jingzhou, which is really moving, isn’t it?
Liu Zhang’s surrender sounds noble with its words about not wanting to suffer the people.
>>25
Because they can’t properly enforce regulations, the people and legal systems have lost faith in them.
Liu Bei was still hesitant.
Isn’t my brother’s life a bit too dramatic?
Even if the puppet betrays the nameless one, I will not allow the nameless one to betray the puppet.
>>29
Moutoku, stop looking at the bulletin board and accurately assess the strengths and weaknesses.
If you enter Chapter 5 through another route, you’ll think, “Is this guy still confused?” but from the perspective of the Liu Bei route, it’s interesting because it’s getting exciting.
This time there is almost no interaction between my brother and Sun Shangxiang.
It feels like the sense of a political marriage increases with the presence of Origins2.
It was originally a political marriage.
In the sequel, I’m counting on you to appoint my Five Tiger Generals: Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Huang Zhong, and Ma Chao…
>>34
There are six people!
>>35
It’s the guy who’s like a mythical sixth man, right?
Actually, you were just over in that battlefield a moment ago, so why are you here…! It’s that kind of thing.
I wonder why it’s affecting me even though I’m not being directly told about it by a common person.
The zeroth of the Five Tiger Generals, me…
In a world where there are already twelve eunuchs, it’s too late now.
In the scenario of 7’s Wei, the Peach Garden brothers can die on the same day.
I think it’s a bug where there is more salvation than historical facts.
>>39
We couldn’t even fall on the same day.
The power of the people under my command feels a bit strange.
I wonder why the image color of Shu is green.
>>42
Liu → Dragon → Green
>>45
Faintly… the origin of the image color is becoming clear.
The Four Heavenly Kings (there are five of them) is a fairly common story.
Zhao Yun joins Liu Bei and the others who are without a strategist!
It can’t be helped, but these guys have been wandering around like this all the way to Red Cliffs…
These guys are always getting into small skirmishes and suppressing mountain crossings… I think.
The arch-enemy Huang Zu stands out in Musou, but his abilities in SLG are consistently lower.
Is it red because it burns easily?
I think you believe you can get away with saying it’s vague, brother.
>>49
I don’t understand… but if Unchou says so, then we have no doubts!
Liu Bei gets lost.
I still did not know how to find it in the heavens.
Zhou Yu joins the battle!
>>53
Zhuge Liang departs!
>>53
Zhuge Liang’s departure!
>>53
Zhuge Liang departs!
>>56
I’m in trouble… Jojo has become negative 2 people…
>>56
It’s Cao Cao’s fault for doing that ruthless headhunting!
Everyone! Let’s start the military meeting!
He is a man guilty of gaining popularity from landowners wherever he goes.
The depiction of Zhuge Liang being infatuated with Liu Bei is great, especially the part about obtaining Jingzhou.
I dislike him because it’s sad that the people get caught up in battle because of his voice.
>>60
The response of the white one.
You’re withdrawing too much.
Liu Bei’s three brothers are the worst.
I think that Lu Su from Wu was actually a supporter of Liu Bei.
One of the if conditions for 7 makes Xu Shu motivated, which I find a bit amusing.
I love how Summer Kou gets surprised, thinking, “Did these guys really fight like that?!”
>>69
If you come at me with brute force, I’ll feel like giving up; the comments from Guo Jia were just too funny.
There are quite a few people who think you would fit well in Liu Bei’s army.
Liu Yan and Liu Zhang, who had hereditary rule in Yizhou, lacked great righteousness; well, that’s fine…
Ah, I liked my previous workplace better…
It’s manipulation.
>>74
A ban has been issued, right!
>>89
There’s no way that would ask such a thing…
Historically, this person has actually defeated figures like Xiahou Yuan by their own efforts.
Top of the muscle-bound group.
I want to see myself witnessing Liu Bei’s last moments at Hakutei Castle in the sequel…
In fact, there are quite a few people whose wives and children have disappeared into the darkness.
At least my daughter is captured by Cao Cao.
>>78
You had a daughter?! Wait, are you being held by Meng De?!
Is it better to die together in Wei if than to follow the historical route…?
>>79
Death in battle from loss of strategic position!
Assassination!
Death from illness after a historic defeat! That’s the historical route…
I want to leave the management of this place to Liu Bei-kun if I die, instead of leaving my own child behind! That’s amazing.
I wonder how Liu Bei’s wife was treated after being captured by Cao Cao…
>>81
Masa might have been taking care of it.
I’ve never seen someone say “I don’t understand…” before.
Shuu Kura is having a hard time joining up.
All 7if routes are interesting.
The Lu Bu route is too chaotic.
>>92
Having been charmed by you, Lu Bu helps others…
>>92
I really liked the part at the end of the ED where they insert a scene asking for help with this character.
I thought there would be one again, but they kindly just told me… it made me feel relieved.
The Liu Bei army is always a mercenary group that responds to emergency requests…
Playing Origins now makes the experience of older Musou games quite difficult, which is the only problem.
Can you release Origins 2 soon?
>>96
I want to get involved with the guys who came out after the Red Cliffs…
I read a book that says “Let’s read about historical facts.”
Zhuge Liang valued righteousness and did not take Jingzhou, yet he took Shu while disregarding righteousness. When Cao Cao died, there was a chance to incite internal strife for a winning strategy, but he did not do so.
It seems that there were people in ancient China who wrote as if there was no way to win using such methods.
He was connected to Yuan Shao, but they didn’t interact much.
If Liu Bei had set aside his own stubbornness, there would have been more ways to do things.
The people somehow follow the man.
That’s why I’m going to take on Cao Cao as Nagasaka Ikki, and history will change.
In name and reality, Jingzhou will belong to Liu Bei.
>>103
For those who understand the Romance of the Three Kingdoms well, it’s possible to predict that the future developments will change significantly, but as an ending, it’s just too dull…
Well, it’s difficult to say what should be done, but I think it would have been fine to let someone like Zhuge Liang join the group.
Honestly, just by choosing the Wu route and killing Guan Yu, I can imagine accumulating all the hatred directed towards me, and it makes me so excited that my whole body is trembling. Just thinking about that makes me feel this way, so hurry up and release Origin 2.
It’s terrible that even though we have Kongming and Pang Tong, we can’t seize hegemony.
>>107
I said either one, but I’m being greedy…
>>107
It’s a bit concerning that the latter dies instantly…
Brother and Sonshoko don’t feel like a couple at all since they have too few episodes.
>>108
Rather, in the context of the story, it’s likely that the romantic elements have been heavily exaggerated on the Shu side.
Official history is an internal enemy.
>>111
A harmonious marriage is a fact!!
>>113
At what point in history was he sent back to his family home?
Everyone split up nicely and protect each other well.
That’s all!
If there is a younger sister for the puppet, then there is also a master…
>>114
As for my sister, isn’t it true that there were quite a few daughters…?
It’s true that you can make the most of a muscle brain by not making them think unnecessarily.
I steal Liu Bei’s steed and ride it, causing a change in the mandate of heaven…
>>117
That horse… is it Liu Bei?
That build… Is that you, Kimi?
The rivalry centered around Guan Yu is intriguing, but since Liu Bei dies soon, it doesn’t take up much time…
Even if it was peaceful, having armed maidens stationed at the entrance is just too scary.
Liu Bei would certainly be nervous.
That’s why I’m saying Cao Cao is banned!
It gives the impression that the three brothers are dying in quick succession like in a cancelled manga, so it feels like it’s rushing to wrap things up?
But I feel like I prefer older people…
If I actually had a younger sister or a daughter, I would probably be thrilled to offer her as a bride.
Are you saying you don’t like the daughter of the commander?
Tch, Cao Cao keeps popping up more and more.
>>128
While Brother Jun took his eyes off for a moment…
If there was a story until 223 years without any changes in fate, that would be too tragic for me.
Jun, please do not give up on work.
>>130
His main focus is on military administration, and he’s probably busy with other matters…
I think “7 with Musou” is still understood normally, or rather, it’s a culmination of the old Musou series, so it’s highly complete.
Origin understands the feelings of being dizzy from Liu Bei’s pheromones and the disgust brought on by Cao Cao’s creepiness…
I hate Liu Xuande, who was made a minion after being robbed of his castle by Lu Bu and is now grinning like an idiot; I will kill Lu Bu.
Hurry up and return Jingzhou.
In Chapter 4, it was said that there is a debt of gratitude to Yuan Shao, but I wonder if I was helped by him in some way?
I want to see Liu Bei, who survives alone after witnessing Guan Yu and his son being captured.
>>139
Please take care of my older brother… I’m going home feeling down…
Soon after, both Zhang Fei and Liu Bei are gone, and I feel down…
After the Battle of Red Cliffs, Liu Bei is unfortunate because his subordinates cause problems due to their selfishness.
If I could just tame this man, it would be a great way to appeal to the outside, Liu Bei’s faction would align with me, and since he is talented, I can understand why Cao Cao, who favors capable individuals, would want him.
>>141
I don’t understand why I got lovestruck from the moment it got big.
Well… in the old Musou, there was the character for justice and the people, but this time it’s interesting to see a stronger emphasis on chivalry and that sort of thing.
>>142
I think this is the definitive version of Liu Bei.
Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Zhao Yun are muscle-headed, so that’s understandable, but what about brother?
>>144
I don’t understand.
>>144
Meathead
He’s Lu Bu’s sworn brother, right?
>>145
It’s not manipulation…
Isn’t it because you were extremely capable as a mercenary leader?
>>147
It’s not the kind of treatment you’d expect for a mercenary leader, as everyone around and the person themselves are saying, “What the hell?!” based on historical facts.
>>156
So it really did happen, huh?
It’s called charisma.
In a story involving Cao Cao, it’s strong if Liu Bei can be under your command, as it gives a strong justification.
If a family line connected to the imperial family is on our side, whether we support the Emperor Xian or take control of the experiment.
Liu Zhang is shitty, but isn’t Zhang Song also a bit questionable…?
>>152
It’s a fact that Liu Zhang is what he is, but it’s also true that the factions he abandoned are ambitious.
>>166
In other words, the group that I have given up on consists of Zhang Song, Fa Zheng, Meng Da, and Peng Yao, and regardless of their abilities, they all have terrible personalities.
It’s impossible to mistake the unmatched Liu Bei and Pang Tong.
I was thinking about how amazing the way Liu Bei is elevated at the beginning of Yokoyama’s Romance of the Three Kingdoms is, but it seems that even in historical accounts, he has a reputation for overflowing with a charm that attracts people from a young age.
You are the left general, after all.
If for some reason Ore-kun defeats Unchou, the mental damage to Anija would be greater than in historical records…
Brother!
Wait… is that voice!?
What’s up with this guy Liu Bei!? Why is he so involved with me and lifting me up so much to promote me!? That’s pretty strong, right?
I think it’s creepy and unclear why you’ve been sitting next to me all the time.
>>165
I wonder if you’re the kind of child who misjudges the distance with close people, Aki-kun… Come ride in my carriage and enter my bedroom, just like you do with brother Jun.
>>170
This is understandable because they are family.
Even though Gongsun Zan is portrayed as an incredibly arrogant character in historical records, he strangely seems to have a strong liking for Liu Bei, and despite being under his command, he casually ends up in Yuan Shao’s camp. I can only think that he must be emitting some kind of pheromone.
>>167
This guy is liked by both academic types and those who are good at rough stuff…
Wasn’t he initially treated as a sworn brother by Lu Bu as well?
>>178
Cao Cao, you should kill this guy!
It seems like there are a lot of smart people in Jingzhou, so I wanted to go there, but it didn’t work out.
It’s considered a laughing matter in modern Japan, but in the values of that time, “You serve me and I’ll control you.”
Is it really true that using it on complete strangers crosses the line from creepy to a madman’s sense of distance?
>>169
Even for those times, that’s quite a madness!
>>169
Even if you ignore the essence, at that point, it was clear that everything about Cao Cao’s side was completely superior, so it is only natural to think that the completely inferior party is flattering the opponent out of some kind of strategy.
>>169
Even if it was the case during Chen Shou’s time, several decades have passed, and with that much time, the way it is received would likely change.
It’s the sense of distance in BL works.
>>171
L is only coming out from one side, right?
Historically, Liu Bei was incredibly strong in battles before even considering his charisma, so he was valued by various factions, don’t you think?
>>172
It’s almost like you, isn’t it…?
Well, isn’t Cao Cao’s sense of distance a bit off? But when it comes to Liu Bei, everyone else loses their sense of distance too.
>>176
Cao Cao is seriously crazy, but all the other lords are totally smitten too.
It seems that Ren Ai was ridiculed for his stutter by Sima Zhao, but is it not a problem to use it towards someone of higher status?
Xu Shu-kun, whose lingering attachment to Shu is revealed because of Abyss’s unique weapon…
>>183
I really wanted to work with Liu Bei’s army…
I think so too!
It is a fact that Liu Zhang is crap, but…
Let’s not trust those who abandon for that reason and try to bring in others! Those kinds of people are not decent.
I think Liu Bei from the SLG should have a bit more of an increase in combat stats.
In other words, is Liu Bei actually a high school girl bunny girl?
When I’m playing Abyss and I don’t have enough knowledge marks, I think of that face of Xu Shu…
Isn’t it really Xu Shu’s mom who truly needs a change of destiny?
>>192
As expected, I have no choice but to destroy the Eight Gates Golden Chain with my strength.
>>196
What exactly is a military strategist…?
Well, it’s like the ruler is a loser! Accepting schemes from the rival’s influential figures is something like what the three powerful figures in Mino do in this country…
Isn’t it too quick to finish the tutorial with Kong Ming and the escape battle, and then immediately end at Red Cliffs!?
In the first place, Xu Shu’s circumstances are just that, so why are you working for Wei?
I feel like there are a lot of people confused about job hunting in general on Origins.
A charismatic person who inspires ambitious subordinates to think, “I’m going to support Liu Bei and rise to power.”
People like you, who are in high demand from everywhere, are valuable.
You can also receive a lot of job consultation.
“Boring… it’s really boring… and then there are those who suddenly lose it and destroy the company.”
>>201
There are plenty of substitutes for me, you know…
Other factions save lives through changes in destiny, but Shu has only one and doesn’t have anything like that.
I wonder if there wasn’t anything casual like that in Shu.
>>202
As mentioned above, the change in the mandate of heaven for Shu really only exists until the Battle of Red Cliffs; there’s nowhere else.
Moreover, just changing that place could be the greatest turning point in which even the fates of Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, as well as Pang Tong, might not end in death…
Everyone is job hunting, but there doesn’t seem to be much job-hopping between Wei, Wu, and Shu.
>>203
After the establishment of the Three Kingdoms, Wei and Wu notably had quite a lot of movement due to surrender.
Even with a critical eye, it ends up being only about a fairly competent bureaucrat like J when it comes to being in Wei.
Is it sarcastic for Hōchū to casually do something while looking down on Xu Shu and then leave, saying “See you later, Motonao”?
Cao Cao’s army is truly… truly boring…!!!
So much!?
Abundant talent! The top is a talent enthusiast!
Boring…