Even though it can be used in the secret art axis, ability axis, and normally to spread buffs and debuffs, dispel, and heal…

It’s unfortunate that you’re a man.

For now, I plan to hit the ceiling once the free period is over.

By the way, Nier is actually quite strong, you know.

The liberation illustration looks like Belial, doesn’t it?

Nier was water, huh…

Don’t respond seriously to a character elevation that is disguised as a misinterpretation.

Having a moss is really fun, isn’t it?

Don’t miss this big wave, Mos!

Zoshimosu’s Kakitaler

I can get a lot of engravings, but I wonder if I can make use of this somehow.

Nier would have been able to compete for a starting position if it had another attribute.

>>14

Good or bad, it’s all about a single point breakthrough for weakened shortening, so there’s at most a slim chance with the wind.

Fire is Fenny, earth is Kaim, light is Zoi, darkness is Rei, and I can handle debuff undead.

Nier has the uniqueness of being able to ignore apples and is also used in Luci Zero solo…

You don’t need it for just doing regular Lush Zero.

Valentine’s is on the extreme ends of being either really weak or really strong.

Nier is also being used solo in Luci Zero!

Well, since Grady and one other person have a lot of freedom, it’s not essential to have Nia…

>>20

I wonder if the main house will also turn blue on the second ability…

I want more ability damage that hits 2 million.

I wonder if the multiplier for the second ability will just not raise the upper limit as it is.

Excited about Jitapai.

Did I misunderstand the conversation about the collaboration?

It’s just that it’s not mandatory over there either.

It seems like Nier also acts twice about half the time, which is pretty intense, but since I don’t have it, I can only imagine.

>>29

I think Nier would have been in big trouble if it weren’t for the water.

It was water, so it got completely buried.

>>29

Doesn’t it only act twice every 6 turns?

>>29

Unlike other buffs, the two actions only last for one turn, so you won’t be able to move that much.

But as an Abidame attacker, it can deal enough damage, so it’s definitely strong.

It’s still here now, though.

“It was a phrase like ‘the Ten Sages will recreate the flavor because their abilities as they are would break the balance.'”

Bringing Nier directly as a water attribute is not allowed, but…

I don’t think it will break if it’s Lobelia.

>>31

Lobelia’s key 4-5T sense has also been confiscated for shortening in the Abbreviation, so it doesn’t have its original performance.

https://granbluefantasy.jp/sp/pages/?p=54274

“Jouten-shuu”: Characters with similar abilities that can be used with other attributes, without detracting from the value of the original version.

“The Ten Sages”: A character with abilities that incorporate the image while not undermining the value of the original version, as having the same abilities as the original version itself affects the balance.

>>33

“It’s an exaggeration to say ‘make it a hobby,’ but I can’t believe such wording would be used for a strong character.”

Maybe I’ll make it infinitely weaker, so it was the collaboration character that I asked for forgiveness.

I only said that the gacha characters from the collaboration shouldn’t have essential performance, but for some reason, there’s a widespread belief that their performance will be weakened, so there are really some people saying random things.

How long will the free gacha last?

Is it until today?

A Tsuchinoko appeared from two rainbows, so I got too stubborn and spun it too much…

Not just here, but most people on the internet don’t even verify their sources.

If someone makes a random or false statement, it will be taken at face value.

I wanted to do it just a little… but when I saw the members freaking out about not getting both from the ceiling, it made me calm down.

Once the free trial is over, I’ll cancel the link.

Nier also has firepower and defense recovery that seems to be related to unlocking, but it seems that a water staff is not prioritized.

>>42

Water has really strong characters…

Is it in exchange for vitality?

>>45

There’s no room to put in the Wham axe anymore, and since I don’t use it much, it doesn’t matter.

When there is a frame to insert, vitality is not a big issue.

>>42

As expected, not having talent in using a staff is no good… The swimsuit isn’t good with a staff either, right?

>>42

Well, it’s not that it’s not being valued, but it’s just that I don’t particularly want to include Nier.

>>42

Children without magical talent really are no good!

>>83

Let’s not dig deep into the rooted issues of Nier’s fate…

I think it’s strong, but not to the point where it’s crazy!

>>44

Nier and Lobelia are both crazy characters, aren’t they?

>>47

That’s true, but that’s not what I mean!

>>44

I think the evaluation will vary greatly depending on the presence or absence of Zosimos.

Honestly, I can’t really trust the story if it’s about other attributes.

>>48

Because what’s sufficient for each attribute and what’s needed in the current environment are different…

It feels like I would have done it if it weren’t just before the anniversary.

>>55

Well, if you don’t do it on Valentine’s Day, when are you going to do it? Are you a newbie?

>>62

There’s hardly ever a time when there’s not a good opportunity to participate in the non-anniversary gacha festival.

It’s usually after a character becomes unattainable that everyone starts making a fuss about how awesome they are.

I think Makora is also quite risky, but pulling now is…

The CT shortening factor is weaker than before, but other aspects are stronger than before, so overall, I feel it is stronger than the original.

>>58

But if they come with the same performance in soil, you’ll use the original lobelia, right?

>>61

If the difficulty of using the engravings can be resolved, I would strongly prefer to use the Valentine ones, but the earth engravings are a bit challenging…

>>61

I don’t understand.

The original strength is being able to repeatedly shorten the CT.

It’s nice to get ability damage during regular attacks on this side, in a full-chin kind of way.

To be frank, it’s a given these days that high-difficulty characters can deal a lot of damage and are tanky…

Only when there is a capability to relieve ominous signs and help the endurance of the entire party can it be said to be suitable.

Nier has the unique ability to reduce debuffs, so it’s still better off.

I hit the ceiling twice during the New Year’s holiday, and since it’s before the anniversary, it’s a bit impossible…

Makora gives the impression of being a self-sufficient Rimiran-chan, but is she really strong?

>>63

To be honest, it’s more accurate to say that it’s like a Cril Note that can cancel out the signs of weakening.

It’s not slow to startup like Liminal, and it doesn’t require any caregiving, so comparing them is almost a negative campaign.

>>65

With one click, a barrage of two hits occurs, and the normal automatic ability damage activates automatically during allies’ consecutive attacks, which is amazing.

Re-issuing is quick because there are no troublesome conditions.

>>96

Well, since it takes 3 turns to unleash the ultimate move, it seems a bit troublesome because it might be interrupted slightly in high difficulty.

It’s just a matter of being careful.

>>63

Rimirun-chan spreads buffs around and follows up with attacks that match the surrounding ones, making her really strong.

It’s a character that makes you cry even before the stream starts, so it must be incredibly strong.

>>68

I haven’t seen it yet, but it’s probably a weird Lobelia fan stream, so that…

The supply pace is more than double between the earth Lobelia’s magical seal and the dark Lobelia’s shell.

Well, that’s why it’s only reduced once for the A-bis.

>>69

It means that while the turnover rate has increased, the original strengths will be nerfed, which is the same direction as CreaUni, right?

>>69

The current Dark Seal is throwing marks around at an incredible pace…

About three items increase by default every turn.

I’ve been able to pull the limited character of the Dark Mark for some reason, so I’m starting to want Zoshimos.

Yeah…

By the end of the year and the beginning of the new year, I’ve probably already spat out most of the stones.

Isn’t it impossible to have a ceiling here?

>>72

Haro and Vare are the cutting points of Linkage.

Even though there are two back PU, I can’t get any stones.

>>80

Is it normal to do lynching?

>>87

It depends on the person.

If you’re not under a Lynx contract, you can just judge based on the stones you have, right?

It feels like there’s a movement suggesting that Yami will continue to work hard on the engravings from now on, so I have the feeling I want to withdraw.

However, the stone is unreliable, so I will endure for now.

It seems that the third ability swap won’t be effective, so if it’s a dark character, I want to keep it.

>>76

It’s strong that you can take them down with death in the dark, right?

Yesterday, Makora was strong and the thread image felt like a dud, but is it actually strong?

>>77

Rather, doesn’t it feel like Makora is treated like Rimilan, and it’s a bit ambiguous, more like something around Lobelia?

The dark engravings are too luxurious, so I try not to look at them.

In the case of soil, you can immediately reduce the cooldown from the normal position activation to 3 turns, so it can be done every few turns.

There’s no reduction, but the usual aftermath has increased damage and defense performance, and other aspects have been significantly enhanced…

>>84

It has a three-target dispel and overall healing, so the direction is quite different.

The rotation rate increases tremendously when externalized.

The center of the Dark Mark is always Moss, so it feels incomplete without Moss.

Is the mark better than the stars of the darkness?

>>86

If it’s a full auto, then highly toxic is stronger, and for high difficulty manual play, Roger-Fedelay with limit-dyeing is strong.

>>102

So it means both are hobbies…

>>130

It’s a period when those who don’t have it are bringing the prices down.

There are people who can’t accept defeat and want to say they won’t use this character out of frustration.

>>102

If you have a Moss, you might as well include Lobelia, right?

>>135

I’m using Moss, but I lost Fedele.

The ability to enhance the protagonist in NieR is commonplace when it comes to its performance.

This year’s non-anniversary Valentine is a ceiling point.

Once you can activate the 3rd ability, you could just leave it alone after that.

That’s difficult, but…

Ah, I see, Nier isn’t good with the staff.

It’s because I originally don’t have any magical talent…

I noticed something strange.

Is saying that Valeroberia needs a nerf just sour grapes despite having clear strengths?

I do want this gacha, but I felt like I could manage without it, so I didn’t pull.

>>97

Rather, it seems like both are characters that can develop their own unique moves.

Proficient weapons: axe, dagger

Nier is just a good match with Death.

On the contrary, Lobelia is a genius regardless of the tower.

>>101

It’s not related, but I became able to kill Lobelia with Death, and that was bad.

>>105

Wanting a new sound, huh…

>>105

Trivia.

What is a ceiling point?

A celebratory New Year atmosphere.

– The anniversary that lets me wear geta.

– Somehow summer

I thought it would work, but maybe it didn’t…

Well, I vaguely thought, “She’s not as strong as a summer character…”

>>104

There are strong characters every year, but you never know where they’re going to appear.

>>104

It depends on the year because I was incredibly strong last year.

>>104

It’s just that with a large number, it’s easy for misses to get mixed in.

>>104

It’s mostly right.

Since there are four gacha events in the summer, at least one time a really strong character will appear.

On top of that, if I properly collect the free stones and buy the subscription ticket, and the free Gachapin doesn’t underperform, I can do one more free gacha to the limit.

>>104

Last year was strong, right…?

Valentine’s Day, sandwiched between the end-of-year holidays and the anniversary, is a time to save points for me.

Unless it’s someone really dangerous enough to change the environment or a favorite character.

Summer characters (implemented from March to August)

>>112

With yukata and other things, summer feels so long that it’s almost like adopting the lunar calendar.

Last summer, it was difficult to judge that Radiel Tephnut was the first move…

Since there are no longer any legendaries to collect in bulk during the summer, efficiency has decreased in some areas.

Horus was undoubtedly strong.

It was winter to say it was summer.

Is this swimsuit character the one that came out in summer or the one that came out in spring…

I can’t quite remember when it was released.

In summer, there are a crazy number of limited implementations, so there are just a lot of misses.

>>119

I think it’s not much to consider that it’s just something that was originally an SR and has become an SSR.

>>136

Was the SR also a gacha in the past?

>>142

In the past, there were also SR swimsuits.

That’s why it’s an abnormal number as it directly became an SSR.

>>151

Ah, so this was the situation…

I completely lost my perception due to the sheer number, I’m sorry.

>>151

In the beginning, it’s like three even with the SR included.

The only swimsuits available were at the end of July and mid-August, and they just kept increasing.

Thank you for your opinion about summer.

That’s right, there are strong characters, but there are many of them…

Even last year, the performance of Raziel, the humidifier, and Galewon was strange, wasn’t it?

Sornia was so ambiguous that I wondered where to use it.

It started to feel good around Quatre, but since it’s a limited edition, it’s okay for it to be this strong.

Ten heavens will probably be adjusted anyway.

>>125

Nier has a wide range of use from farming meat to soloing Luci.

Thorn will probably shine on the ancient battlefield…

In summer, it generally seems that the last character is reasonably strong, and I have the impression that there is at least one exceptionally strong character among the three before it.

Last year, Horus was ridiculously strong, but he wasn’t released in the summer.

Last summer, I properly had strong intercourse with the heavenly maid Gallion.

Last summer, it was more than enough for Shinpi, Okami, Galeon, and my older brother to be strong.

Wasn’t it crazy by the time of On and Radiel in the summer?

>>131

Older brother and the innkeeper are also here.

Especially the innkeeper was very active on the battlefield.

In other words, during the summer, about ten people come at once, and since about half of them have hobby-level skills, it creates a negative image.

It seems like everyone has a high rate of pulling the bathing suit Seluel or Levans, which could fit into the template when aiming for the yukata Vampy.

>>134

The timing might be a bit off, but swimsuit Aliza performed quite widely as well.

I feel like it would be tough without moss in the thread image, but I wonder what it’s like.

I think Thorn will quietly shine like a sparker in the old battlefield.

>>139

Like that Cassius.

>>145

The Valekashius only shines in the old battlefield with its fireworks, right!?

I want sexy characters, so I’m working hard to save up for the anniversary, summer, and year-end events to hit the ceiling.

…just a little…

The swimsuit version was poorly received when it was first released, which is frightening.

It seems that my batting average was quite good this summer.

Personally, I can’t remember what else was there besides Vampii-chan… I have a memory of the year before last being like that.

>>143

Is it Bikara and Belial?

>>143

Cellul…

>>143

Personally, I think this year is quite a good one with the Yukata Vampi Sel El Aliza Julius Kupi Tan.

Rather, having nearly 10 people in swimsuits all at a mandatory level would be more problematic.

Swimsuit characters can’t wear geta; those from the March Legend Festival are the most troublesome.

I can understand why there is a stronger image that swimsuits and yukatas are not as popular, compared to the seasonal limits of other times.

There are certainly those who are exceptionally strong.

Thorn could be a secondary option in terms of durability against Fluoro.

Everyone is too obsessed with boobs and brother!

It is often the case that gacha for SR swimsuit characters becomes a money pit.

I still haven’t pulled the swimsuit fairy after all.

I would use Valcasius if he were around, but it’s not a problem in the old battlefield without him, so it’s probably about that much for Thorn as well…

How is this year’s Valentine’s in terms of strength?

>>161

As for Makora, it’s like combining Haze and Ran-chan.

It feels like I completely stacked the original performance link skills, so it’s seriously insane.

There are characters like Swimsuit Kukuru-nee that used to be SRs back in the day, right?

>>162

As expected, a unit with both deception and turn-ending ability damage isn’t going to come to an SR…

Look at the lower limits like Mr. Elmoth more.

I hear that the old man Halos eats a lot of engravings, but I wonder if we can use them together.

>>163

If there are mosses, we can line them up.

There are some unnamed people who are confusing last year, this year, and this fiscal year.

Well, the swimsuits when SR was around were even more focused on personal preferences than they are now…

>>165

Sometimes when they slip through, how should I use them…? That’s kind of excessive.

>>165

Rather than just the swimsuit, the limited edition itself hardly had any practical performance.

There were some crazy ones like Harobear, though.

>>165

It was mostly about what to use it for even in SSR, wasn’t it?

The swimwear guys are really something, aren’t they?

>>166

I’m thinking of getting it with the anniversary ticket, but it seems like there are more chances for swimsuits in the limited gacha.

The swimsuit Cupitan from the year before last is enough to give a perfect score for me.

The thinness of the special reaction dispel layer for fire is unbelievable…

Well, it’s going to take quite a while for Thorn to start dispelling.

It seems that Nuru-ojisan and Kupitan might be useful.

It feels like it’s outdated without ever knowing where it would actually be used…

>>177

At our place, it felt like Nyuru-oji was gathering meat while Kupitan was digging for grand primal crystals.

>>177

Nyurol Uncle can be used for gathering meat this year too.

Kupitan has been in charge of falling at death for a long time.

Lord Kupidan has both the Kupidan and the non-Kupidan implemented, so it’s confusing!

Distinguish between Kupitan and Lord Kupitan!

Mr. Kupitan (Not Kupitan)

Two years ago, there was also the infamous swimsuit Enyu in a bad way.

>>181

I thought this might be something to adjust, but nothing seems to happen at all…

>>187

Regular items receive adjustments quickly when they have a bad reputation, but seasonal limited items don’t get adjustments immediately at all.

Well, it’s probably because it’s not easy to obtain.

It’s great that the swimsuit prince had a proper chance to shine.

I felt like Granblue was mostly about yukatas and swimsuits, but it turns out I wasn’t mistaken…

Is it from March that we wear yukata?

It’s amazing, Mr. Elmo, that there are hardly any elements that can beat the constant ones.

The yukata is at the end of March.

Last year it was Fie and Elmo.

The swimsuit prince is a rare character who, after being evaluated as “if only he had the right parts,” really came together and started to shine.

>>190

It was a big deal that a failure came.

You might only want to use this character when a terrible boss appears, or it might be good to use when a character that can deal a lot of damage comes along.

Yukata Elmo-sensei is a character to team up with you, brother!

I laughed when I realized that there was a moment of excitement but no particular synergy.

The Nuru uncle was convenient for rough full auto use.

The type that is plain like the swimsuit Narumea yet irreplaceable is the most troublesome.

Sister Kukuru is easier to handle in different seasons, so I wonder what kind of reasoning there is for planning to release her as an SR.

Kupitan was used for strong monkey digging for a while.

Lord Kupitan was used up to the low-level bosses of the ancient battlefield.